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Apocalypto: Mel Gibson's Hidden Agenda
2006-12-10
Times Review: 'Apocalypto'
Robert W. Welkos


A key consultant among several archeologists who served as advisors on Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto" said he is disappointed that the film overlooks many of the Mayas' cultural and scientific achievements and portrays the people as "bloodthirsty savages."
Hey, Europe was savage at one time. Conan the Barbarian didn't own a toothbrush.
As a chase movie, "Apocalypto" is top-notch, said Richard D. Hansen, a professor of anthropology at Idaho State University who has written extensively about the Mayas. The sets, makeup and costumes are also "accurate to the nth degree," he noted. But it's a feature film — not a documentary — which may let down those looking for accuracy at every turn. "This is Hollywood, first and foremost," Hansen said.
Even if it is, I still enjoyed the movie on all levels. Gibson defended family values in "We Were Soldiers," "The Patriot"and "Signs," and he does it again in this film.
Somebody always has to whine, and the NYT is better at it than most.
As with any historically based feature, whether it's "Alexander" or "All the President's Men," directors take creative license with the facts. "Apocalypto" is no different. "The final decision when making a film is, 'What is the right balance between historical authenticity and making it exciting, visually as well?' " said Farhad Safinia, who co-wrote the script with Gibson, adding: "The film is an all out entertainment thrill ride, and that is what it was always designed to do. It is a work of fiction."

Gibson and Safinia have said they wanted the film to serve as a reminder to today's world that the precursor to the fall of a civilization is always the same: widespread environmental degradation, excessive consumption and political corruption.
What happened to the Mayans mirrors what is happening to Iran's Ayatollahs. What is the difference between Mayans making human sacrifices to appease their tribal gods, and the Ayatollah's martyr indoctrinations? Iran is a decadent society that needs an external push to quicken its internal crumble.
But archeologists point out that nobody knows why the Mayas, who ruled in the Americas for more than 1,000 years, abandoned their cities and allowed their majestic pyramids to become overgrown with jungle. And to watch Gibson's "Apocalypto," one might not realize that the Mayas were in fact a highly sophisticated people: They mapped celestial objects, developed an accurate 365-day calendar, created their own writing system and perhaps most notably had developed the concept of zero in mathematics.
The Egyptians were also advanced, but they spent hundreds of years building pyramid crypts for their god-kings. Slaves who slacked off, were murdered.
"The calendar [angle] is so rich," Hansen said. "It would have been a marvelous part of the story."

Safinia said that the film's narrative is told through the eyes of the central protagonist, Jaguar Paw, and it is his journey that we follow. "You do see aspects of the Mayan civilization in the background," Safinia said, such as their architecture, their industry and their preponderance to ornament themselves with jewelry, costumes, textiles and such.
C'mon Mel. Next film: "Ayatollakaputo." But ease up on the Jews.
Posted by:Sneaze Shaiting3550

#28  JM,

We WOULD >never have guessed >it wasn't YOU.
Posted by: Dreadnought   2006-12-10 20:53  

#27  Really?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-12-10 20:51  

#26  Sorry, #25 should be Me.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-12-10 20:34  

#25  "Degradation ... Consumption ... Corruption" > See REGNUM.RU = as per the Ultra-Left USSR, even BORIS YELTSIN admits USSR = SOVIET UNION, SSSSSHHHHHHHHH NOT the decadent evil Capitalist Americanskis, twas on the edge of COLLAPSE ANYWAYS, due to unstoppable dynamic INTERNAL FORCES/PRESSURES. Can positively surmise that not even Commie TOTALITARIAN GUBMINT-ARMY STATE WOULD'VE STOPPED IT.
Posted by: Angish Angeresing7804   2006-12-10 20:33  

#24  It's a gift.
Posted by: Whomoque Gravimp8761   2006-12-10 19:23  

#23  SNL ruined it yesterday. Can't see this movie now without laughing.
Posted by: E.W.   2006-12-10 17:52  

#22  Touche Touchy

mor 6r flummox medicine
Posted by: RD   2006-12-10 17:12  

#21  It's supposed to be a unicycle.

HaHahaha! Touchy!




Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-10 12:53  

#20  Modern scholarship is showing that the Myans indeed participated in bloodthirsty rituals. Early archaeologists like Hiram Bingham created a fanciful portrayal of the Mayans as a perfectly peaceful group living in harmony with the earth and everyone. Further digging has shown a different picture that puctures that balloon.
Posted by: Sgt. D.T.   2006-12-10 12:30  

#19  The story is about the end of a civilization. Sure the Mayans were intelligent and advanced in many ways. So are serial killers. Again, the story is about the END, not the PEAK of their civilization. It's not History Channel fare, it's entertainment. Fiction, with an historical base. Like Patriot. Like Michael Moore's stuff--except an accurate portrayal of life in that part of the world at that time. Heck, you could make the same themed movie about a gang warfare situation and a man trying to save his family, and have it set in Los Angeles or Iraq, and it wouldn't be very much different--except for the setting. I'll bet it's terrific and I plan to see it. Go Mel. And yes, some Jews are baddies, just like everyone else. Mel's just a little overboard on that, and when he's shit-faced drunk, his upbringing wacko-ness surfaces. About the same for everyone else, methinks.
Posted by: ex-lib   2006-12-10 10:50  

#18  This is Hollywood, first and foremost," Hansen said.

...directors take creative license with the facts.

Most of hooywood is based on pretend and make-believe. It might have been Spencer Tracy that said acting wasn't fit work for a man.
Posted by: JohnQC   2006-12-10 10:39  

#17  Personally, I'm more concerned about the truthiness of "Waterworld".

It's been a while since we had the pleasure of Mr. Costner paying us a visit. I hope's alright.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-12-10 10:38  

#16  Or am I just a moron? Don't be afraid to say yes.

Well, if you have to ask...
Posted by: Mick Dundee   2006-12-10 10:34  

#15  It's supposed to be a unicycle.
Posted by: Whomoque Gravimp8761   2006-12-10 10:31  

#14  Shipman, 1496? Actually I still don't get it. I understand what everyone else is saying. I just don't understand what you're saying. At least I admit it. Of course I don't understand anything you say except maybe now and then.
Or am I just a moron? Don't be afraid to say yes.


Posted by: Whomoque Gravimp8761   2006-12-10 10:19  

#13   Multiculti horse $hit. It's a movie.

Indeed. And people don't go to the movies for a lecture on the glories of the Mayan Calendar.

What cracks me up is that, until this weekend, all the people ranting against the film were doing so based on a three minute trailer.

Personally, I'm more concerned about the truthiness of "Waterworld".
Posted by: SteveS   2006-12-10 09:56  

#12  Good lord folks, it's just a movie. It made no claim to be a documentary, let it go. Geeeze!
Posted by: 49 Pan   2006-12-10 09:51  

#11  Amaizing.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-12-10 09:44  

#10  Economist article: Then, as now, maize was the staff of life in Central America. The Maya thought of human beings as in some way made of maize: they distorted babies' soft skulls to make them look like a head of corn. They probably practised cannibalism: for them, it was like eating maize. And in Mayan cosmology there was a maize god who was beheaded every year (like the crop) and reborn in the underworld. But not as maize; rather as a magic tree from which all fruit sprang.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-12-10 09:39  

#9  Multiculti horse $hit. It's a movie.
Posted by: SR-71   2006-12-10 09:28  

#8  Glad to see you finally get it Whomoque Gravimp8761 it's taken you about 510 years. BTW how's that axle thing coming along? Got it yet? No, try again, two wheel, two wheels.
Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-10 09:23  

#7  That's right, if it's good enough for Mel Gibson and his Western European buddies it's good enough for everyone else. So there.

Posted by: Whomoque Gravimp8761   2006-12-10 08:39  

#6  A key consultant among several archeologists who served as advisors on Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto" said he is disappointed that the film overlooks many of the Mayas' cultural and scientific achievements and portrays the people as "bloodthirsty savages."

If you want a cultural documentary watch the History Channel [which sometimes is no better than what Hollyweird would put out]. Otherwise, if western Europeans civilization has to put up with constant portrayals as 'barbarians', it's good enough for everyone else.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2006-12-10 08:21  

#5  "The calendar [angle] is so rich," Hansen said. "It would have been a marvelous part of the story."

Yeah, a calendar-based movie, when the protagonists spend 2h 20 mn going through the minutiae of the said calendar, while sitted in circle around it. What an excitment-filled motion-picture it would be!
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-12-10 06:54  

#4  WG8761:
The movie is worth a look if only to watch the hero risk his life to save his family. I know the reviewers are out for Gibson's blood; but the film engages audiences and isn't a film variation of Al Bore (or Gore) speak as one Eastern conservative said.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-12-10 06:53  

#3  Not that it matters much; I guess Gibson has as much right to make up stuff as anyone else. Although there is plenty of evidence that the Aztecs, who came along much later than the Mayans, tore out hearts and such, and even indulged in cannibalism (even first-hand accounts from the Conquistadores), as far as I know there is no evidence whatsoever that the Mayans did likewise. Maybe they did have human sacrifice as did so many cultures around the world. But there's more evidence that the Iranians and the Arabs like cutting off heads and slitting throats than for the Mayans. But then, Mayans, Aztecs, what's the difference, hey?

Posted by: Whomoque Gravimp8761   2006-12-10 06:43  

#2  Steve S:

Actually, there are no skull pyramids pictured in the film. After an Ayatollah stabs a sacrificial victim and yanks out the heart, another Ayatollah cuts the head off and bounces it down the pyramid steps to the cheers of the multitudes. Then the heads are stuck on the end of poles.

This is how they do it in Qom:
http://www.ncr-iran.org/images/stories/repression/hanging-public-jan.jpg
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-12-10 00:31  

#1  People are so dang judgemental. A few human sacrifices, a pyramid of skulls and suddenly you are "bloodthirsty savages". Jeez.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-12-10 00:18  

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