You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Britain
Veiled British Muslim woman delivers alternative Xmas message
2006-12-26
Waders recommended... Better yet, wear a full-body condom.
LONDON (AFP) - A Muslim woman in a full-face veil went head-to-head on television with Queen Elizabeth II, delivering an alternative Christmas Day message on religious integration.

At the same time the 80-year-old monarch's Christmas message to Britain and the Commonwealth was broadcast, a woman known only as Khadijah spoke on Channel 4 television Monday about why she wore the niqab in public and called for tolerance. "We are seen as oppressed. Since I've started covering I feel much more liberated, which I know a lot of people possibly won't be able to understand," she said. "I don't wear the niqab to separate myself from society. I want to be part of this society -- this is where I choose to live. I hope that society is more accepting of my personal choice. It's not about separation."

Khadijah's appearance comes amid a debate about the extent of religious and ethnic integration following last year's home-grown Islamist extremist suicide attacks in London.

The row intensified in October when former foreign secretary Jack Straw said he asks Muslim women to remove their veils when they visit him in his constituency, saying it helped communication. Prime Minister Tony Blair then called the veil a "mark of separation" between communities.

Khadijah -- who converted to Islam a decade ago and said she is the great-granddaughter of a suffragette who fought for women's right to vote -- said Straw's comments were not helpful. But she also said that Britain was the best country for people to practise their religion freely.

On other subjects, she said the row over Danish cartoons satirising the prophet Mohammed that sparked outrage and violence across the world showed the need for tolerance of other religions. She also revealed she was concerned for a relative serving in Afghanistan with the British army and her own approach to the Christian festival.

She said it was important to stress the links between faiths, in particular that Jesus is a prophet in Islam, and that she liked to celebrate Christmas like anyone else -- with a traditional turkey meal followed by mince pies."My alternative Christmas message this year is peace on earth and good will to all humankind, regardless of race, colour or creed," she said.

Asked what she would say to Straw, she replied: "Merry Christmas, Jack, and a happy new year! Would you like a mince pie?"

Earlier Monday, the Church of England's second most senior cleric, Archbishop of York John Sentamu, said community cohesion in Britain would only come through an end to talk about multi-culturalism and cultural diversity. "We, as citizens of this nation, must agree to build our dwelling tent together," said Uganda-born Sentamu, the Church of England's first black archbishop.
Taqiyya 101.
Posted by:.com

#26  Not sure if this has been posted. Friedman's "Mideast rules to live by"
Posted by: tipper   2006-12-26 18:24  

#25  
I really dig the stylish eyewear! It compliments their face apron. I'm sure they must be HOT!
Posted by: Chuck Darwin   2006-12-26 17:02  

#24  Thanks Angie.
Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-26 16:12  

#23  Sweetheart, the reason you are seen as oppressed is that they make you wear a sack- and you let them.
Posted by: Grunter   2006-12-26 16:03  

#22  Ummmm, that's carved over the door at Allan's Snackbar ?
Posted by: wxjames   2006-12-26 15:17  

#21  I just finished watching Khadijah's "alternative" Christmas message.

Per Khadijah, her bottom line "alternative" message is: "peace on earth and good will toward all human kind". Human kind?

Human kind? Well, yeah!!! Khadijad is hip and liberated. We know this because she says so herself. The niqab is NOT oppressive, it's liberating. Khadjiad is as liberated as any fem studies major at Berkley or Oxford, the U of Wisconsin or U of Michigan or wherever.

For the "alternative" muzzie message it's all: "Peace on earth and good will toward human kind". It's not "peace on earth and good will toward MAN" like it has been for the past 600 years and for all writers at the Hallmark card corporation. Certainly not. Only judeo-christian culture/religion forget that WOMEN are important, too, at this special time of year. Muslims know it, bit the infidel do not. Is that part of the message from Khadijah?

I thought of Old Spook (PBUH) when the bitch spokesperson mentioned that muzzies revered Jesus (correction...ISA) and were looking forward to the day of his RESURRECTION. Here's hoping OS didn't have a mug of piping hot chocolate in his hand when he heard/read that. Disgusting beyond words and not deserving of comment.

(Was it someone on this thread that coined the phrase "the niqab is the chasity belt for the face"? (Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.)

Someone else mentioned Khadijah's shoes. Check 'em out ladies: black boot, very stylish, very hip 2 to 2 1/2 inch heels. Oh, and look at how you women can ACCESSORIZE your niqab with a colorful scarf at this festive time of year. So very VOGUE...so COSMO sexy...so Glamour magazine. You might not even be slapped down by the religious police in your district until after the Haj for wearing the colorful scarf.

I'm sure this has been mentioned before but it does bear repeating: the only tolerance that should be shown to muslims is the precise minimal amount of tolerance muslims are willing to show to jews and christians in the least tolerant muslim majority country. Gosh, that doesn't give muslims much wiggle room, does it?


Trivia question: Who said:

"Show them no mercy for they will show you none".

Posted by: Mark Z   2006-12-26 14:06  

#20  Just wondering if channel four offers a counter Ramadan message from a Jew or a Christian? In the name of being inclusive and politically correct.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2006-12-26 12:28  

#19  Not only that, SpecOp35, she's pissing on the grave of her supposed great-grandmother. Her ancestor fought hard to be counted as a man's equal, and she's voluntarily decided to become some man's property. Worthless twit.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2006-12-26 12:14  

#18  Thx, Angie - that explains it.
Posted by: .com   2006-12-26 12:13  

#17  I figured that zillions of people, over the years, had wanted to give an alternative Christmas message. What made Channel 4 decide that this woman was the one who gets to do so?

Turns out that this is some crap Channel 4 has pulled every year since 1993. Other alternative messages have been delivered by such luminaries as Jesse Jackson, Brigitte Bardot, Marge Simpson, and "Barry and Michelle Seabourn, a Merseyside couple who appeared on [the] Channel 4 reality show Wife Swap."

So in other words it's just another dumb stunt in a long line of same.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2006-12-26 12:10  

#16  She should have been introduced afterwards to a Druid who would explain his religion's take on Christmas as a pagan festival co-opted by Christians.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-12-26 11:58  

#15  Look again, Crazy, check the shoes.
One o them wimmins got a boner.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-12-26 11:55  

#14  What the hell are they doing out without their owners?

Some people just can't control their livestock....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-12-26 10:54  

#13  Someone tell the catmeat to shut up and bend over.

/koran
Posted by: Excalibur   2006-12-26 10:52  

#12  A direct slap in the face of the Queen and monarchy. A direct subversion of English culture. When will the counter speech be given that anyone walking around in a bag in public is considered a direct target?
Posted by: SpecOp35   2006-12-26 10:50  

#11   I offer a new Muzzy Maxim for consideration:
No slight too small, no lie too big.


How about one for the West:
No more tolerance of intolerance.
Posted by: SR-71   2006-12-26 10:30  

#10   Taqiyya 101

I'd promote her and Channel 4 to Taqiyya 201. Two weeks ago, Kahdijah announced that she would not deliver the scheduled alternative Christmas Day message due to pressure. Somehow, it was "re-scheduled".
Posted by: mrp   2006-12-26 09:10  

#9  Funny how it's always us that have to do the tolerating...

It's an essential part of Dhimmitude.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-12-26 09:04  

#8  Funny how it's always us that have to do the tolerating...
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-26 08:31  

#7  Heh, since you italicized the whole thing, you erased the emphasis on Muzzies calling for it.

Not intentional, I always try to preserve any emphasis in cites. Yours was especially appropriate. Pure cognitive dissonance, indeed.

No humiliation too slight, no revenge too dire.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-26 06:43  

#6  I offer a new Muzzy Maxim for consideration:
No slight too small, no lie too big.
Posted by: .com   2006-12-26 05:46  

#5  Heh, since you italicized the whole thing, you erased the emphasis on Muzzies calling for it. My point was the massive CogDis aspect - the fucking NERVE of the bastards, lol.
Posted by: .com   2006-12-26 05:42  

#4  fuck the insanity of Muzzies calling for tolerance.

Tolerance is the last thing that should be shown for Islam. It has been over five years since 9-11 and all the progress at thwarting terrorism has been ours. Muslims have made nothing even remotely resembling significant strides that are needed to assure the Western world of their ability to integrate. Be it Southeast Asia, Europe, Iran, Australia, Africa or anywhere else for that matter, the consistent and almost overwhelming response by Muslims indicates an abject refusal to integrate or assimilate.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-26 05:08  

#3  Especially since she fails to note that the "Danish cartoons controversy" was completely manufactured by Muzzies. They added cartoons which were more offensive and then started the Muzzy rumor mill - a marvel of insanity in itself.

Muzzies will believe anything - absolutely anything - they're told, if the messenger has the proper Muzzy credentials. This cow is a Taqiyya agent and should not have been given the equivalency platform by Channel 4. Fuck them, fuck her (no, not with mine), and fuck the insanity of Muzzies calling for tolerance.

Wotta buncha tools.
Posted by: .com   2006-12-26 04:36  

#2  On other subjects, she said the row over Danish cartoons satirising the prophet Mohammed that sparked outrage and violence across the world showed the need for tolerance of other religions.

Ummmm ... no. False premise. Islam is the one that needs to change and become more tolerant of things like creative license and ridicule. If it can't, it needs to go away.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-26 04:25  

#1  Boggle Alert: HotAir video of the performance is here.Listen to the voice and then try to connect it to the wraith. The words, themselves, make it a classic.
Posted by: .com   2006-12-26 04:07  

00:00