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God help France if it falls for the charms of Ms Royal
2007-02-25
Posted on the off-chance that France still matters.
The French farce that is currently passing as the presidential election campaign across the Channel continues to throw off laughable gaffes, extraordinary revelations and some of the best examples of "double-think" in contemporary politics. And if the French electorate is enjoying this spectacle, they are mad. The laughs are all on them.

In many ways, it is hard to see France's decline. But lovers of la vie française (such as myself) need to stand back. In 1979, the British were 20 per cent poorer than the French, as measured by GDP per head. We are now 5 per cent richer, and the outlook is for that gap to widen further. The general economic background is a major part of this - the French economy has crawled along at a growth rate that has averaged half that of the UK's in recent years. Unemployment is stubbornly high, and even after a recent recovery, remains nearly twice the UK's.

All this despite the extraordinary act of generational theft that is being committed daily by the French pension system, which is funding current consumption by inadequately providing for the future. Not to mention incredibly high government spending - 43 per cent of GDP, while national debt is now equivalent to 70 per cent.
Posted by:Steve White

#14  Bastiat had the left pegged:

"If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?"—from The Law
Posted by: Bobby   2007-02-25 17:22  

#13  It was a Scotsman, Adam Smith who first called the English a nation of shopkeepers, though Napoleon usually gets credit for the phrase.

The reference to shopkeepers reflects my impression that while entrepreneur may be a French word, the French have never been satisfied to be bourgeois politically. And it is being happily bourgeois that is part of what is necessary for a civil society to sustain representative government. It is also why the cultured French can look down their noses at mere shopkeepers like the English and Americans.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-02-25 17:19  

#12  Do the French elite really think that being a shopkeeper is something bad? If so, that might explain the current French economic trend.
Posted by: Mike N.   2007-02-25 17:12  

#11  -- God help France --

Cos I'm not inclined.

Posted by: anonymous2u   2007-02-25 15:52  

#10  The French system is too stuck on men on horses.

Probably true.

But what can we expect from a nation without shopkeepers.

WTF ???
Cliché.
Remember there are about 17 millions active french workers supporting 43 millions unactive people. Despite the sclerozed structures of french economy, labor productivity is good (I suck at economy and all, but IIRC, it's better than Germany's, for example) and free-market is not an unknown to us, despite the socialist nature of France since 30 years+, and the 200+ statist love affair of our successive gvts (true french disease is jacobinism, the matrix of all totalitarianisms ever since).
Does anyone remember that "entrepreneur" is afrench word, that there's a long tradition of independent small workers, shopkeepers, skilled laborers... and that one Great Old One of the free-market theory is none other than Frédéric Bastiat.

But in some way, this "shopkeepers" cliché is rather funy, because one major staple of french Enlightened Elites' anti-americanism is that the "USA are a Nation of shopkeepers", without that characteristic french élan and spirit.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-02-25 15:29  

#9  God help France

Omnipotence --- a necessary attribute for helping France.
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-02-25 14:53  

#8  A Pinochet would set France back at least 50 years. The French still don't have the personal responsibility, representative democracy thing down. I doubt a Pinochet (De Gaulle) would help them. One of the greatest contributions Washington made to the development of the United States politically was doing so little so that many learned the lessons. The French system is too stuck on men on horses. But what can we expect from a nation without shopkeepers.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-02-25 13:06  

#7  BTW, that comment was in all seriousness.
Posted by: phil_b   2007-02-25 12:53  

#6  Having read that, a French Pinochet seems France's best hope.
Posted by: phil_b   2007-02-25 12:52  

#5  Posted on the off-chance that France still matters.

France has nukes and also could give to China planes who are much better than what Chines have. So yes it mattes that pro-American Sarkozy replaces piece of shit Chirac.
Posted by: JFM   2007-02-25 12:00  

#4  If the Independent thinks your program is too socialist you have a serious, serious problem.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-02-25 11:45  

#3  Or for the french Pinochet, please perhaps?
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-02-25 09:50  

#2  Time for "France's Blair"?

No, time for France's Thatcher, if she has one.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-02-25 09:36  

#1  incredible. Just the fact that French are moving to Britain to avoid high taxes? LOL!
Posted by: Frank G   2007-02-25 09:30  

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