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Al Gore's "Carbon Guilt"
2007-02-27
A commenter at Canada's "Small Dead Animals" blog (h/t Relapsed Catholic) describes AlGore's method of doing penance for his global warming sins:

He buys 'indulgences'. He purchases carbon credits from those places which use little energy. What does this actually mean?

It means that in the world run by the Kyoto Religion, only the rich can have sufficient energy. The rich can use as much energy as they need for their mansions, their limousines, their private jets, their entertainments and so on - without any sacrifices whatsoever. All it takes is money to flip to the poor-in-energy-use.

The Kyoto Religion of the socialist leftists is heavily class-based. There are the rich, who use all the energy they want - and pay 'sin-money' to the poor, who cannot afford to pay for energy. The poor, of course, have to sacrifice; they can't afford the high cost of green energy, they can't afford the expensive 'energy-saving' new technological equipment; they can't afford the extra taxes on energy systems; and they certainly can't afford to pay sin-money.

But- that's what the Kyoto Religious cultists have set up; a class-based society. The rich and the poor. The rich get all the energy they need, and assuage their guilt with sin-money. The poor are deprived of energy - and watch while the Kyoto cultists insist that their taxes be spent, not on our own country's needs, but are sent to 'other countries' - as sin-money.
Posted by:Mike

#21  But burning carbon is fun!
Posted by: DMFD   2007-02-27 20:24  

#20  "Even societies organized around the principle of the equality and preeminence of the proletariat have had an elite class. It is the natural order of things."

Does this sound like members of the politburo living in dachas while everyone else waits in line 4 hours for two rolls of toilet paper to anyone else in the 'burg?
Posted by: no mo uro   2007-02-27 17:52  

#19  #17 anon-2u - Glenn Reynolds says it's because of the Chinese market plunging - apparently it's affecting markets world-wide.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2007-02-27 16:38  

#18  And after "I-Truth" came out, Gore household consumption increased....Suppose mommy and the kids turned up the heat and ran around with all the lights on with Al out of town?
Posted by: Sid 6.7   2007-02-27 16:29  

#17  YOUZA!

You guys paying attention to the market????

Down 400 Points!
Posted by: anonymous2u   2007-02-27 15:12  

#16  One of AlGore's defenders (yep, he has at least one):

Those on right are busy today comparing Al Gore's energy consumption to the average American. Well, Al Gore is not the average American. He comes from power and money and he has achieved power and money in his own right.

Al Gore lives a life different from most folks. I'm not one to defend elitism, not as a matter of practice, but some elitism is inevitable. There must be a leadership class. There always has been and there always will be. Even societies organized around the principle of the equality and preeminence of the proletariat have had an elite class. It is the natural order of things. The key for a society is to create a responsible, responsive and fluid elite.

Is that a defense or an indictment?
Posted by: Mike   2007-02-27 14:36  

#15  I have a proposal. Let's say it takes "X" to run, say, a 3000 sq. ft. home, if the homeowner goes above "X," surcharge.

This hits "the rich" and those who have big homes.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2007-02-27 12:22  

#14  Hey! Do as I say don't do as I do; get in line with the program. You don't understand. These things don't apply to me--only you.
Posted by: Al and Tipper Gore   2007-02-27 11:53  

#13  carbon guilt from the ultimate carbon blob.
Posted by: Broadhead6 in Iraq   2007-02-27 11:37  

#12  This from the environmental rads, a who thunk? moment. George Bush's ranch at Crawford -

The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.

Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.

A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.

No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak trying to shame his fellow citizens into following the pristineness of his self-righteous example. And no, it is not the wilderness retreat of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven where tree-huggers plot political strategy.

This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford.


Note the line - How does the President reconcile an eco-friendly abode for his own family with his persistent stand against anything that smacks of an environmentally friendly agenda for the nation as a whole?

Maybe Josie because people not in your mindless fake religion to Gaia are not inheritantly evil. There's nothing wrong with living your personal life in a manner that is generous and respectful of the land, its another to impose it based upon fear mongering, half truths, hate, and a facade for the grasping of power after your Communist approach failed miserably in the late 20th Century.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-02-27 11:31  

#11  Gorebal Worming IS a religion - look, they've invented simony already!
Posted by: mojo   2007-02-27 10:22  

#10  Apparently its only $4/metric ton per

http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/

assuming 1 metric ton of carbon per 1 megawatt hour (which is probably almost certainly a high estimate based on calculations by:

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99187.htm


then the Gore mansion's 200+ megaKW hours could be offset by less than about $800 in credits (which by the way go to environmental organizations buying rainforest land, etc.)

This has scam written all over it.
Posted by: mhw   2007-02-27 09:25  

#9  lol, tu! Interesting point you make there actually. Wasn't there something (PETA or the UN or someone) last week about how we meat-eaters cause global warming from all the cows/hogs/chickens we raise for food and the methane they release? So, if'n I got this right, to be "truly green", we'd eat only beans (of course, that alone causes greenhouse gases), use hamsters to power turbine engines to run our homes, salt all of our food (instead of refrigerators), walk (or bike) every where we want to go, and have solar power panels on our roofs.

Of course, it's much easier to pay your $30k utility bills and just assauge your guilt with some hare-brained idea like "carbon offset credits."
Posted by: BA   2007-02-27 09:14  

#8  Are carbon credits edible? Because, from what I saw of Al yesterday, if they aren't, I wouldn't think he'd be interested in them...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-02-27 08:47  

#7  Does anyone know how much the carbon credits cost?

I think I read somewhere that they cost the same as the price of a soul. Not as pricey as you might expect. In fact, they go downright cheap.
Posted by: Thromoger Thrumble5163   2007-02-27 08:36  

#6  Does anyone know how much the carbon credits cost?

I suspect he got a rock bottom low price on them because no one except morally vain poseurs would want them, thus the demand is probably low as is the market clearing price.
Posted by: mhw   2007-02-27 08:23  

#5  "Captain Ed" Morissey:

. . . purchasing offsets only means that Gore doesn't want to make the same kind of sacrifices that he's asking other families to make. He's using a modern form of indulgences in order to avoid doing the penance that global-warming activism demands of others. It means that the very rich can continue to suck up energy and raise the price and the demand for electricity and natural gas, while families struggle with their energy costs and face increasing government regulation and taxation. It's a regressive plan that Gore's supporters would decry if the same kind of scheme were applied to a national sales tax, for instance.

And basically, it doesn't address the issue of hypocrisy. If Gore and his family continue to increase their consumption of commercial energy with all of the resources they have at hand, then they have no business lecturing the rest of us on conservation and down-scaling our own use.
Posted by: Mike   2007-02-27 08:00  

#4  Bobby here are the particulars.

"GoreÂ’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES)."

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
Posted by: Jacko   2007-02-27 07:36  

#3  This morning on WTOP Radio, a study was quoted saying Gore's Tennessee mansion had a $30,000 utility bill last year.

Bet that didn't include the SUV's or the private jets.

But it probably did include water, sewer, and trash pickup, so the energy cost couldn't be more than $2,000 a month. Why, I've had smaller house payments!
Posted by: Bobby   2007-02-27 06:19  

#2  Will the left ever run out of ways/excuses for creating a highly regulatory oligarchy where the "right people" are in charge, make ALL the rules, and have the best lifestyles not on the basis of entrepreneurship, or by plebiscite, but on the basis of sycophancy to raw, naked government power?

Actually, the guy who wrote the article got it wrong, in part. The goal of leftists is not to rip the poor, it's to stymie those who would make money in a capitalist, entrepreneurial fashion. The oligarchs on the left need the poor to have a bloody shirt to wave and a bloody stick to use.

I'm left wondering what the excuse will be after after "climate change has run its course - any ideas out in the 'burg?

We could even start a pool.
Posted by: no mo uro   2007-02-27 06:13  

#1  It's a tax, and on the rich. No wonder the Dems approve.
Posted by: Bobby   2007-02-27 06:05  

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