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| The Salt Lake Shooter: A Jihadist Martyr |
| 2007-02-27 |
| by David Huntwork If you only read the news as reported by the Main Stream Media, you would never know that we had just recently experienced another Jihad style attack by a Muslim on American soil. On Monday, Feb. 12th, one time Bosnian refugee Sulejmen Talovic (age 18) walked into the Trolley Valley shopping mall in Salt Lake City and in a six minute rampage killed five people and severely wounded several more. The dead were identified as Jeffrey Walker, 52, Vanessa Quinn, 29, Kirsten Hinkley, 15, Teresa Ellis, 29, and Brad Frantz, 24. My initial (blogged) reaction was: Any guesses as to whether he's a Muslim or not? I may be going out on a limb here, but I sense another follower of Allah and the Religion of Peace.... And might I add that this is a great example of how having a large section of the population allowed to conceal carry is a good idea. Sure enough it turns out Sulejmen Talovic was indeed a Muslim and that little nugget of information has fueled a firestorm of speculation among bloggers and unleashed accusations of "cover-up" directed towards the Main Stream Media and law enforcement investigators. The media showed an interesting and obvious reluctance to initially disclose, let alone discuss, eighteen year old Talovic's religious persuasion. A nearby wedding videographer was able to videotape the initial police response and capture audio of some of the shootings as well as the shouts of the shooter before police gunned him down. The chilling tape can be viewed here. On the video, the Islamic battle cry of "Allah-hu Akbar" (God is great) is heard two times at 1:38-1:40 as the officer identifies himself. There appears to be a third one at 1:47. So it appears that a Bosnian Muslim shooting his way through a mall killing Americans and shouting Allah-hu Akbar in the post 9-11 era is apparently not newsworthy. Am I missing something here? According to the Associated Press, FBI agent Patrick Kiernan has reassured us that the bureau has no reason to believe Talovic "was motivated by religious extremism" or intended "an act of terrorism." Thank goodness. I know I feel better. Instead, investigators insist "Mr. Talovic's motive remains a mystery." We can only assume that the politically correct, multiculturalist dogma has struck again. The shouts of Allah-hu Akbar do kind of give it away, but the mainstream media has pretty much balked at saying the "M" word. When it comes to this attack, the news is something to be spun, not necessarily reported. They also went out of their way to assure us (incorrectly) that the latest Islamic martyr did not attend any mosques in the area. This was quickly refuted: Although he quit school at 16, Sulejman Talovic often attended Friday prayers at the Al-Noor mosque on 700 East in Salt Lake City" - Salih Omerovic (a relative). The mosque is two blocks from the mall where the shooting took place. Charles Johnson over at LittleGreenFootballs.com put it this way after coming under fire by Utah's Deseret News for daring to mention the fact that the killer happened to be a Muslim. "And we're supposed to believe, apparently, that there is absolutely no connection between Islam and terrorism, and anybody who suspects one is either a racist or an ultraconservative." Bloggers have adopted the term 'Sudden Jihad Syndrome' (coined by Daniel Pipes) to describe this type of incident where otherwise normal appearing Muslims abruptly become violent. Leaderless resistance and lone wolf martyrdom operations are both preached and praised by the global jihadists. There have been several such incidents in the last few years. FrontpageMag.com published a column entitled Salt Lake Jihad?: In October 2006, a pro-jihad internet site published a "Guide for Individual Jihad," explaining to jihadists "how to fight alone." It recommended, among other things, assassination with guns and running people over. Is it possible that Sulejmen Talovic and some of these others were waging this jihad of one? An editorial entitled Sudden Jihad Syndrome at Investors Business Daily lists eight other recent examples of young Muslim men launching individual attacks in the United States. The shooters family is extremely shocked by their sonZs act of terror and suspect the possible encouragement and involvement of others. From KLS.com: The father of Trolley Square shooter Sulejmen Talovic apologizes over and over for the ordeal. Suljo Talovic says no one who knew his son saw this coming and he believes someone pushed him to do it. Suljo Talovic doesn't know where his son got the guns or how he learned how to use them. Suljo Talovic, Father of Shooter: "Somebody got (the guns) and maybe (they were) training him and tell(ing) him (to), go shoot somebody.'" Question: So you think that somebody influenced him maybe to do this? Suljo Talovic: "Yeah. I think somebody." Talovic says the tragedy is taking a toll on his family. Repeatedly, in a lengthy interview with KSL Newsradio, Talovic expressed the sentiment that someone trained and pushed his son to kill. He apologizes for the ordeal, saying it makes him feel horrible, like killing himself. The fact the father suspects someone recruited and trained his son is significant. We need answers as to who supplied the guns and the ammunition and who instructed him in their use. We can only hope that law enforcement has cast aside the chains of political correctness and is vigorously investigating and interrogating all those who interacted, and attended mosque, with young Talovic. Once again it has been left to the blogosphere and Internet outlets to lead the investigation and uncover the motives of this latest terrorist attack on the Homeland. David Huntwork is a conservative activist and freelance columnist in Norther Colorado where he lives with his wife and three young daughters. You may view his bio, blog and past columns at DavidHuntwork.tripod.com. Feel free to contact him with any comments or questions at DaveHuntwork@juno.com. |
| Posted by:anonymous5089 |
| #17 My apologies, Rob. Clearly I'm more tired than I realized. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-02-27 21:32 |
| #16 TW, that was a quote from Icerigger. I couldn't remember the exact university, and I'm not in the position to call ANY university "the sticks", so... |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2007-02-27 21:20 |
| #15 Then their was the kid who converted down at some farm campus. He attended a mosque with known terrorist ties. When he couldn't get into the football stadium to blow up the crowd he bombed himself outside the stadium. University of Oklahoma at Norman, Rob. That's Oklahoma City, not exactly out in the sticks. My brother professes there, and gave us links to the school paper and local news sources at the time. The bomber was stopped at the stadium gates by security, so he went to the bus stop to wait for the exitting crowds. As I recall, he and his little friends (roommates? I don't recall exactly) had whipped up a batch of that terriblyly unstable bathtub explosive, and it went critical before he was quite ready. Quite a mess greeted the kids when they came out, apparently. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-02-27 21:18 |
#14 Then their was the kid who converted down at some farm campus. He attended a mosque with known terrorist ties. When he couldn't get into the football stadium to blow up the crowd he bombed himself outside the stadium. I figure that guy either never intended to get into the stadium or had the buses as a fallback. In college I went to a basketball game with my girlfriend -- at a college where basketball is the ONLY major sport. After the game there was a crush of people trying to get on the buses back to campus; my girlfriend was only 5' tall, and had I not blocked the crowd and held her up, she almost certainly would have gotten hurt. A suicide bomber in the middle of a crowd like that would be horrific. Between the blast and the following stampede, easily dozens would die. On the cries of "allahu akbar" in the video; Charles thinks that's not true: No way. I made my living by listening closely to recorded sounds and music for many years, and I’d bet big money that the ‘allahu akbar’ chant is not on that tape. There’s a very characteristic sing-song quality to the chant, that you can hear even in last-minute suicide bomber tapes, and I do not hear that at all in the SLC video. I haven't spent the time to listen closely to the video, but I trust Charles. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2007-02-27 19:47 |
| #13 #12 - That ain't racism, honey - that's survival. Racism would be if you would "take it as a death threat and react violently" only if the (Which presumes that you wouldn't react if the attacker were the same race as you - which strikes me as one of the more STUPID implied positions of the Lefties. But then they're the real racists, so why would I be surprised?) |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2007-02-27 19:19 |
| #12 I do not want to be a racist, or thought of as one, but if someone comes towards me or mine with a gun shouting "Allah-hu Akbar", I will take it as a death threat and react violently. |
| Posted by: whatadeal 2007-02-27 18:27 |
| #11 Third reason, lots of Clinton era middle management left in the FBI. Fourth reason, the Saudis are getting value for the millions of dollars they have lavished on various Federal officials. Fifth reason, the FBI brass is kowtowing to CAIR. |
| Posted by: Shieldwolf 2007-02-27 18:14 |
| #10 The MSM would have a feeding frenzy if a fundamentalist Christian shot up a mall. It would be reported as a "Right-wing Christian" going amok in the mall. There would be a call for gun control. The only reason I can think of that the lid is being kept on is what has already been mentioned, i.e. that maybe there is an investigation ongoing. The second reason is that people have just about had it and the Feds realize that--they don't won't muzzies getting shot up indiscriminately. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2007-02-27 17:43 |
| #9 What's the upside of getting the public hysterical? Who knows, maybe some public-spirited citizens might start doing a few things to make the Muzzies in this country know the party is over and it's time to go back to their countries of ethnic origin--while they still can. |
| Posted by: mac 2007-02-27 17:41 |
| #8 Think Sean O'Patrick, goes to rob a bank, the cops unexpectedly show up and start shooting at him. He says "Jesus, Mary and Joseph!" dont prove he was robbing the bank in the name of the above. Why do I get the impression that if a Christian, who attended a fundamentalist church, went into a shopping mall and shouted, "Praise God" everytime he shot someone, that the media would be the first to make the connection and educate us all about the worldwide dangers of Christian fundamentalism. |
| Posted by: Thromoger Thrumble5163 2007-02-27 17:02 |
| #7 So what's the upside of getting the public hysterical? |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2007-02-27 17:01 |
| #6 Never mind that he had them kneel down on the ground in a store which was selling the forbidden (by Islamics) Valentine's Day cards. Never mind that his mosque's leader was convicted of the tradition of Quranic wife beating. Never mind that not one single story like this covered by the FBI has ever seen the light of day. Nimble, joke or head in the sand? Sorry I need coffee. By the way liberalhawk I saw the video of that pilot's family when they were asked if he really had mental problems. Their eyes started twitching like kids caught with their hands in the cookie jar as they said, "no he was mentally sick". Bullshit. Few if any Christians yell God is Great before they commit mass murder hawk. Then their was the kid who converted down at some farm campus. He attended a mosque with known terrorist ties. When he couldn't get into the football stadium to blow up the crowd he bombed himself outside the stadium. The FBI found additional explosives in his apartment but still ruled it a suicide. Right. In the mean time the clueless FBI is raiding a legit gun dealer's home in Minnesota. Bout as useless as tits on a tree. |
| Posted by: Icerigger 2007-02-27 16:47 |
| #5 Further, the Feds may be trying to keep the lid on it for good reasons. There's lots of whats going on that we don't know about and frankly don't need to know about. If the MSM went into hysteria over a shopping center jihadi shooter the way they did over Anna Nicole, ever muzzie wacko would want to buy a ticket to Mexico City to prove he can shoot more infidels in their den of iniquity than the last guy. I'd rather they try to kill the Vice President at Bagram AFB. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2007-02-27 16:15 |
| #4 nope. From what I can gather, muslims say Allahu Akhbar whenever they think theyre about to die, regardless of the reasons. Think Sean O'Patrick, goes to rob a bank, the cops unexpectedly show up and start shooting at him. He says "Jesus, Mary and Joseph!" dont prove he was robbing the bank in the name of the above. This discussion came in the case of a muslim pilot on a plane that crashed, and the cockpit recorder got him saying "allahu Akhbar" and some dudes said, see, this was a suicidal act of terror. It may have been that, but the Allahu Akhbar aint proof. The expression is just far more pervasive in their culture then we realize, and isnt limited to acts of Jihad, AFAICT. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2007-02-27 15:41 |
| #3 Liberal Hawk...I appreciate your reticence, but does this sway you? |
| Posted by: anymouse 2007-02-27 15:33 |
| #2 There might be another one, via LGF: At the University of Missouri-Rolla, a student is in custody after making “terrorist threats:” Student Arrested After Threat At UM-Rolla Campus. (Hat tip: LGF readers.) CNN has already decided why he did it: Police: Depressed student said he had bomb, anthrax. And no one’s talking about whether he’s a Buddhist, a Mennonite, or something else. ... The CNN report includes this: The man’s identity and nationality were not released, though school spokesman Lance Feyh said he was an international student. |
| Posted by: anonymous2u 2007-02-27 12:06 |
| #1 ...On the video, the Islamic battle cry of "Allah-hu Akbar" (God is great) is heard two times at 1:38-1:40 as the officer identifies himself. There appears to be a third one at 1:47. What the hell the main stream mush brain liberal media thinking? Do they think these people don't want to kill them too? I don't get this silliness on the part of the media. They must want to be under someone's boot. Christ almighty, give these people a brain. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2007-02-27 11:50 |