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| Ahmedinejad: Iran, Saudi Arabia to fight against “conspiracies” |
| 2007-03-04 |
| Hat tip to Jihad Watch. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday that his first state visit to Saudi Arabia has been fruitful and the two Islamic states agreed to jointly fight what he called ”conspiracies” against the Islamic world. Just when they were doing so well at fighting each other. Drat! Talking to state-run Iranian TV on his return from Riyadh, he said the two states discussed the latest developments in Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian areas and vowed to increase efforts for unity within the Islamic world and blocking discord among Islamic sects. I think it's safe to remain confident that one little meeting isn't going to smooth over something in excess of a millennia's worth of sectarian slaughter. Ahmadinejad has several times accused the West, chiefly the United States, of seeking to sow discord between Shia and Sunni Muslims in order to strengthen its own status and that of Israel in the Middle East. More of the usual horseradish from Ahmadinejad. America didn't even exist when Islam's "discord" began. Perish the thought that they might need to look inward for the real cause of any "discord". The Iranian president had visited Saudi Arabia on Saturday, holding his first meeting with Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz in Riyadh. Afterwards, Ahmadinejad said that Iran and Saudi Arabia were obliged to help meet the needs of the Islamic world. “Iran and Saudi Arabia are two great and powerful Islamic countries and accordingly have numerous mutual obligations and responsibilities in the Islamic world and Middle East,” he said in a statement on the website of the Iranian presidential office. When they say "great and powerful", what they're really saying is "wealthy enough to finance an endless campaign of international terrorism against the West". Great and powerful is when a single one of your submarines can vaporize both Iran and Saudi Arabia with a single launch. The Iranian website quoted Abdullah as saying that Saudi Arabia is the “second home country for Iranians.” “Today, the Islamic world has many enemies who want to sow discord between the two countries, but our two nations are Muslims with a united belief and therefore enjoying good relations,” Abdullah said. Ahmadinejad was received by the Saudi monarch and Prince Bandar bin Sultan, secretary general of the National Security Council, who is known to be close to the Bush administration in Washington. That "united belief" sure seems to be working wonders in Iraq. "Ahmadinejad has several times accused the West, chiefly the United States, of seeking to sow discord between Shia and Sunni Muslims" So, we are “seeking to sow discord” to the tune of nearly ONE TRILLION DOLLARS and thousands of American lives scattered into the Iraqi sands. This selfsame discord that has sounded like a sour note echoing throughout more than a thousand years of Islam’s bloody history. Where would Islam be if not for the Infidel’s incessant conspiracies, all fiendishly plotted against these oh-so innocent believers? If Muslims simply cannot cease painting themselves as tragic victims of conniving external forces, then this may well be the time to make a reality out of their dreams. It all might be for the better if we follow their strategy for once and make them into genuine victims for a change. Give Islam an authentic taste of real persecution, continuous assault and endless siege. Beleaguer dar-al-Islam in the same way that they have sought to peck at the eyes of dar-al-Harb. If Islam insists that the West shall be the House of War, then we must make it so. Give Islam its most fervent wish and bring them Hell warmed over for breakfast. If the only alternative to submission is war, then war it must be and the sooner it is begun the more quickly it will all be over with. Shall we further postpone the inevitable whilst our foes master the very darkest arts of battle? Must we let them continue to suckle upon the vitriolic teat of their foul creed only to bloat themselves with ever more bile? What reason is there to let them gain any greater strength when it most assuredly will be turned against us at some future point in time? We have been given their repeated promise of all this and manage to somehow ignore the message being sent. No longer can we afford to blinker ourselves to the implications of allowing Islam any better foothold in the West than it already has. The "discord" they seek to smooth over is something that dearly needs to be highlighted for the global community. If the world can gain from Iraq a clear image of what awaits it once Islam manages to settle its internal differences, then this will all have been worth it. I am finally convinced that it is time to remove most of our troops from Iraq. Let them crank at their ghoulish meat grinder alone and feed it with their own flesh and blood. We have done all that is necessary or could be expected of us. Why seek to enforce peace upon those who absolutely will not have it? As always, the "conspiracies" that Ahmadinejad blats on about have ever-so-little to do with the real threat faced by the MME (Muslim Middle East). The simple fact remains that Islam’s true battle for survival is with itself. Their true enemy resides in those whose ceaseless jihadist atrocities are steering the ummah towards oblivion’s precipice. Regardless of how Muslims perceive the West as dar-al-Harb, the only winnable war that confronts them is the one to recapture and then reform their faith. If that battle is not worth fighting or there is no interest in fighting it, then nothing can save Islam from itself. It will bring about its own doom by continuing to attack the West with arms wholly insufficient to the task. The Infidel tiger continues to slumber, but it is not-at-all wounded or even mildly taxed by what has gone before. Once awakened, the ferocity with which it will finally lash out is something that Islam’s clergy stubbornly refuses to admit, even to each other. It is this willful ignorance, this abject and absolute refusal to confront reality that endangers Islam most of all. The Muslims’ penchant for conspiracy theories continues to distract their attention from the vital task of reformation. Their own leadership happily redirects any focus away from those gnawing internal issues that endanger Islam most of all. Instead, their warmongering clergy seeks to channel all attention towards combating a far less dangerous enemy than the one lurking within their midst. This intentional oversight will prove most fatal of all. As Islam hastens itself towards benighted delusions of victory, their ill shod boots clumsily tread upon the tiger’s tail. |
| Posted by:Zenster |
| #9 See also IRAN NEWS/IRAN WS > IRAN'S SPECIAL OPERATIONS IN IRAQ - Nutshell, Iran is in Iraq for its own National-Regional Security + Geopoltical ambitions/interests. Plus, YNET > IRAN'S OBESSION TO DESTROY - Iran is NOT just threatening to destroy Israel + others but ISRAEL > IS DE FACTO PROMISING TO DO SO ONCE THEY ACQUIRE SUFFICIENT TECH = NUKE WEAPONS CAPABILITY(S). Israel > WAR NOW,; or world can engage in PC UNO Sanctions which in all likelihood WILL NOT STOP OR HINDER IRAN FROM NUKES, i.e. FIGHT IRAN LATER WHEN ITS MIL = NUKE ABILITIES ARE MUCH STRONGER. IOW, SAUDIS AREN'T SAFE - Iran Officios also refuse to confirm or deny Iranian support for a pan-Arab Accord recognizing Israel in exchange for Israel's withdrawal back to pre-1967 Six Day War borderlines. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2007-03-04 22:32 |
| #8 heard same .... sounds good |
| Posted by: Frank G 2007-03-04 21:43 |
| #7 I understand the meeting went badly and Nutjob left in the middle of the night. |
| Posted by: Brett 2007-03-04 21:21 |
| #6 "I think it's safe to remain confident that one little meeting isn't going to smooth over something in excess of a millennia's worth of sectarian slaughter." Yea, well, it's 1375 years ago since those pricks took over the actual line of succession to Muhammed. Err, uh, but yea. Whose counting, right? |
| Posted by: garbagecowboy 2007-03-04 19:57 |
| #5 I can see that Zenster has been practicing! |
| Posted by: Chiper Threreger8956 2007-03-04 19:50 |
| #4 true all - the major support base of the MMs is the uneducated and hyper-religious |
| Posted by: Frank G 2007-03-04 19:35 |
| #3 Deacon, you are correct, I believe. The only way that the mullahs and Islam can flourish in a scientifically literate and educated society is through violence and by keeping those within it scientifically illiterate and uneducated. Violent religions flourish by keeping the worshippers uneducated except via the pulpit (yes, Christianity has been guilty of this in the past). The long arm of the "preacher" and his moral authority must be maintained as absolute. Actual educational schools and education are maintained as only secondarily or tertiarily important to religious schools and education and the individual's moral and religious "education" (which is actually indoctrination) in cult-like societies. One's moral and religious "education" are paramount above all other things - in some cases including your own family and friends. This is seen strongly in the madrassa system and the movement against western religiosity or freedom of expression in western societies. |
| Posted by: FOTSGreg 2007-03-04 19:00 |
| #2 Zenster, nice polemic there. Makes me wish I had said it. We must become wolves! If it is to be war or submission, let it be war for I, at least, will not submit. |
| Posted by: FOTSGreg 2007-03-04 18:51 |
| #1 IslamÂ’s true battle for survival is with itself. Their true enemy resides in those whose ceaseless jihadist atrocities are steering the ummah towards oblivionÂ’s precipice. Regardless of how Muslims perceive the West as dar-al-Harb, the only winnable war that confronts them is the one to recapture and then reform their faith. It seems to me that the Islamic faith is beyond reformation. They are getting more and more violent and want nuclear weapons so that they can hasten the retyrn of the 12th Imam. The 12th Imam is supposed to come at a time when Muslims are close to being anihilated. They know the West will never initiate an anihilation program so they will make us do it in retaliation for their more violent efforts to establish a World Wide Caliphate. To reform Islam would require educating the greater mass of Muslims to a degree the Imams will not let happen. An Educated populace is much harder to control and that's what it is really all about. Control. Look no further than the burnings of schools in Afghanistan and Southern Thailand for the recipe. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2007-03-04 18:46 |