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| The Islamic Nation's Problem is That Muslims Do Not Work. |
| 2007-04-15 |
| An understanding of effect, now all they need to understand is cause We use trains and planes, but they are not our trains or planes. The (Westerners) manufacture them and export them to us. True, we can buy the most magnificent things in the world products for our homes and for ourselves. Our people can buy the most luxurious cars, Rolls-Royce or Mercedes 500 or 700, models S, M, and L with all the luxuries. We own them, but we don't manufacture them. We don't even produce a single nail in any of these cars. Others do this for us. The income of the entire Arab world, including the oil-producing countries, does not reach the that of a European country, such as Spain. Spain – let alone Germany, France, Britain, or Italy. Just Spain, which is at the bottom of the list of industrial countries... The income of the entire Arab world does not reach it. How come? Because we don't work, and if we do work, we don't do it professionally. Seek guidance from ol' Mo. He has all of the answers. LOLOL. They conducted a survey of the average time that a government employee spends working in a certain Arab country. The average was 27 minutes a day. 27 minutes! The rest of the time he drinks coffee, reads newspapers, and goes on errands here and there. Only a small number of people work. The rest do not. I'd say the capitalist arabs work hard. In the mid 1970s I went to Germany. We arrived during in the morning. I asked the guy who took me from the airport to the convention hall… As I was passing through the empty streets, I asked him how come the streets were not busy, like in our countries. He said: "People are at work." After 7 p.m. he took me back to the hotel, and the streets were empty. I said to him: "What's going on, the streets are empty again." He said: people are back home from work, and they are exhausted. All they want is to eat their dinner, watch the news, and then go to bed, because early next morning they have to wake up for hard work. They commute more than an hour to work and back, and spend an hour at lunch. They work non-stop. And here comes, as they say, the "money shot" We are a nation that doesn't work. How can we develop if we don't work? When we do work, we don't do it professionally. We keep saying "Don't worry, later, later…" Islam teaches us to do things professionally. Doing things professionally is a religious duty. The Prophet said that Allah ordered to excel in everything. He imposed excellence and professionalism. Professionalism must be followed in everything. "If you kill, do it properly, and if you slaughter, do it properly." Even when killing, you must do well. LOL! It ALL comes down to killing for mohammedeans, correct? It IS something they can do well and maybe the only thing. Unfortunately, we do not excel in either military or civil industries. We import everything from needles to missiles. This is our nation. We still haven't manufactured an engine in our Arab countries. We assemble parts, but have no manufacturing industries. India has manufactured a car, and even a plane, while we still go around in circles like a bull in who turns a grinding mill or a water weal (sic) until it reaches exactly where it started. How come the Zionist gang has managed to be superior to us, despite being so few? It has become superior through knowledge, through technology, and through strength. It has become superior to us through work. We had the desert before our eyes but we didn't do anything with it. When they took over, they turned it into a green oasis. How can a nation that does not work progress? How can it grow? Ummm, drop the rules of mohammed? Try it. |
| Posted by:Brett |
| #14 --In part, it's subsuming the individual to the group where any individual effort or innovation is frowned on.--- Like some unions? |
| Posted by: anonymous2u 2007-04-15 23:09 |
| #13 I've observed this lack of achievement in non-arab moslems and it's an interesting phenomena. In part, it's subsuming the individual to the group where any individual effort or innovation is frowned on. Its especially interesting when in SE Asia their chinese neighbours who have an apparently (superficially?) similar strong attachment to family and clan work very hard are often extremely succesful. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2007-04-15 22:31 |
| #12 Well, Morgans, maybe. You bastid, KBK! I was going to insert that arcane automotive disclaimer but didn't want to be any more obtuse than I already am. Love the monkey analogy, too-seems fitting, given the symbolism of the term "monkey" in Islamic textbooks. Thank you, Jules. The analogy paid off on so many levels it was nigh well irresistible. Extending the jar comparison further to "the narrow conduit of Islamic thought" and thereafter "into the dry riverbed of theocratic control" was gratifying in the extreme. I'm glad that you enjoyed it. Qaradawi is one of terrorism's prime movers and needs to be capped stat. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-04-15 21:54 |
| #11 KBK-LOL. But think of the backfire that a nail-built engine would produce-who needs bombs to strew nails? Now THATt's Muslim-built-tough! "They cannot place paramount importance on memorizing the Koran and expect such rote learning to produce individuals capable of critical analysis or the independent thought needed for invention." Bingo, Zenster. Love the monkey analogy, too-seems fitting, given the symbolism of the term "monkey" in Islamic textbooks. |
| Posted by: Jules 2007-04-15 21:38 |
| #10 We don't even produce a single nail in any of these cars. Cars have nails? Well, Morgans, maybe. Like Zenster says, he doesn't seem to even have a decent knowledge of how cars are constructed. What he should have said: "Our countries are the main source of the liquid gold this technology runs on, and we're too lazy, disorganized, and fatalistic to keep our corrupt rulers from stealing all the profits instead of using them to improve our countries' economies and education systems." |
| Posted by: KBK 2007-04-15 20:22 |
| #9 can be traced to the school of a single Persian philosopher, named "al-Ghizali" in the late 12th and early 13th Centuries IIRC he said that Mathematics was haram since it so entralled men that they looked away from Allah and the Koran. |
| Posted by: John Frum 2007-04-15 20:10 |
| #8 Two words....Soylent Muslim. A Muslim Perfect food for Muslims. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2007-04-15 20:10 |
| #7 Fixed. Amazing what one poor little dropped tag can do, ain't it... |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2007-04-15 19:20 |
| #6 The end of "progressive" Islam can be traced to the school of a single Persian philosopher, named "al-Ghizali" in the late 12th and early 13th Centuries (the spelling is important, as there are other Muslim philosophers with similar names). As a reaction to Persia being invaded, he promulgated through his school the idea that all knowledge outside of the Koran and its commentaries should be ignored, as it will only lead the faithful astray. This was accompanied by intense xenophobia and paranoia. And though it took quite a while for his philosophy to spread across the Muslim empire, wherever it took hold, science, study and innovation died. And stayed dead. The last real outpost of learning was in Spain and Morocco, where some of their libraries were captured by the Christians when the Muslims were thrown out (for the time being), by Ferdinand and Isabella. But the further away from Persia Muslims got, the less they appreciated al-Ghizali. To this day, Moroccans and Egyptians still think of themselves as a cut above the other Muslims. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2007-04-15 19:18 |
| #5 Sheesh. Sorry about that. forget ONE little slash. Thanks for the comments, though. |
| Posted by: Brett 2007-04-15 19:08 |
| #4 The Aswan Dam is Israel's ultimate weapon against an Egyptian invasion. It is the Sword of Damocles hanging over Mubarak's head. He knows Israel can blow the dam, and thus destroy Egypt, and believes they will do it before they submit (I choose that word very precisely) to defeat by Egypt. When they say 'Never again', they mean it, at least for this generation (after that - I am not so sure.) |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2007-04-15 18:26 |
| #3 Brett, your highlighting tags got away from you there. We don't even produce a single nail in any of these cars. Sorta gets to the heart of the problem right there. Cars aren’t built with nails. Qaradawi is one of Islam’s most respected scholars and he thinks cars are built with nails. The income of the entire Arab world, including the oil-producing countries, does not reach the that of a European country, such as Spain. Spain – let alone Germany, France, Britain, or Italy. Just Spain, which is at the bottom of the list of industrial countries... The income of the entire Arab world does not reach it. How come? It is an intense irony that Qaradawi should cite Spain, whose rigid interpretation of Catholic doctrine prohibited loans as usury, as with Islam, and stifled the sort of industrial revolution that swept Protestant Northern Europe. Far be it from this idiot to notice such a glaring similarity. Islam's strangulation of MME (Muslim Middle East) economic growth is a direct parallel of Spanish industrial stagnation. As to income, there’s plenty of wealth that flows into the MME. There just isn’t any trickle down in terms of capital investment and industrial development. For Qaradawi to bemoan lack of personal income without recognizing how the vast majority of petro-dollars never make it out of government hands is sheer obfuscation. The endemic corruption typical of almost all Islamic cultures is to blame and Koranic doctrine further entrenches that eliteist entitlement on a daily basis. Doing things professionally is a religious duty. The Prophet said that Allah ordered to excel in everything. He imposed excellence and professionalism. Professionalism must be followed in everything. "If you kill, do it properly, and if you slaughter, do it properly." Even when killing, you must do well. Looks like Islam didn’t even get that part right, or else they would have invented nuclear weapons a long time ago. The Western work ethic triumphs once again. About all the Arab world does regarding this is beg us to use our atomic weapons against them. Not the brightest strategy for them to choose. How come the Zionist gang has managed to be superior to us, despite being so few? It has become superior through knowledge, through technology, and through strength. It ahs [has] become superior to us through work. We had the desert before our eyes but we didn't do anything with it. When they took over, they turned it into a green oasis. How can a nation that does not work progress? How can it grow? All this from a genocidal terrorist bastard who continues to advocate the West’s destruction. Does this moron sincerely believe that he can go on preaching an unreformed Islam yet manage somehow to obtain the industrious and productive results found in the West? This is a root cause of failure in the MME. They cannot have it both ways. They cannot disallow interest on loans and simultaneously expect foreign investment or growth in the business sector. They cannot place paramount importance on memorizing the Koran and expect such rote learning to produce individuals capable of critical analysis or the independent though needed for invention. This same asshole insists that free speech be curtailed over something so idiotic as the Mohammed cartoons and still expects that such a constrained society could ever achieve the open exchange of ideas and expansive sort of thought needed for technological breakthroughs. He is nothing less than the fabled monkey who, in trying to pull forth an apple from a jar, becomes trapped by his own fist clutching the piece of fruit. Qaradawi's unrelenting grip upon the power conferred by Islam's retrograde doctrine leaves him fatally encumbered but he cannot bring himself to admit it. He prefers to go on grasping Islam and its poverty of achievement rather than abandon the select privileges and political station it has brought to him and a bare few others. Nothing of substance can pass through the narrow conduit of Islamic thought. It channels all energy and dedication into the dry riverbed of theocratic control. Qaradawi is directly responsible for this yet does not blink at bewailing the stillborn fruits of his life’s work. This is Islamic cognitive dissonance writ large. This is what has kept Islam in the stone age for over a millennia. Not so much Koranic doctrine, although it is surely to blame, but more importantly the blind unreasoning irrationality of those like Qaradawi who think that technological and military supremacy can result from practicing a narrow minded and Neanderthal creed like Islam. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-04-15 18:24 |
| #2 I'll give the Egyptians credit for the Aswan Dam, I'll give the crdit to the Russians. |
| Posted by: JFM 2007-04-15 18:06 |
| #1 Formatting's farked, but it's easy enough to follow. Watching archaeology shows on "Discovery", I've been struck by a couple of really massive engineering projects from ancient times that, apparently, the modern Arabs have no interest in emulating. I'll give the Egyptians credit for the Aswan Dam, but there was another dam, in Yemen, that was built 2-3,000 years ago. It turned a patch of the desert into an oasis that supported a massive city. Today, there are only ruins of both the dam and the city. The locals apparently get a bit snippy (or is it "snipey"?) when outsiders come around to investigate the ruins. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2007-04-15 17:39 |