a huge terrible storm is cominga nor easter
the potential hail has bumped imus
off r top story tonight
Do they teach you to spell like that in haiku school? Or is it a separate course you have to take?
i was on the stoprosie site
• “You know, this President invaded a sovereign nation in defiance of the UN. He is basically a war criminal. Honestly. He should be tried at The Hague.”correct quotes
• “Don’t fear the terrorists. They’re mothers and fathers.”
• “Democracy is threatened in a way it hasn’t been in 200 years and if America doesn’t stand up we’re in big trouble.”
thank you ethan
well done
Very gracious of you, Rosie. Bush didn't invade a sovreign nation in defiance of the UN. Mostly it was in defiance of France and Schroeder's Germany, plus Kofi and the usual suspects. There were perfectly valid UN resolutions dating all the way back to the first Gulf War, any one of which would have been "authorization."
Our democracy's considerably less threatened at the moment than it was during the Civil War, when the Democrats were just about as venal and carping as they are now. And the Know Nothing Party's gone, so we don't have to worry about them. And the Whisky Rebellion's over, as is the Blackhawk War and the Panic of '76. Usually the Republic teeters on the brink of one crisis or another.
I fear the terrorists. Some of them are mothers and fathers, but few of them are rational in the way we understand rationality. I fear minds unhinged. I fear people who're willing to chop people's heads off, to take entire elementary schools hostage and bump off the kiddies. I fear people who're willing to blow up beer joints full of people on vacation, who're willing to dynamite commuter trains and buses and to fly airplanes full of screaming people into tall buildings. You can be friends with them, but I'm keeping my distance from a bunch of dime novel villains who're determined to rule the world in much the same manner Dr. Fu Manchu and Ernst Stavro Blofeld were reputed to have been. The mere fact that you don't like the president for one reason or another does absolutely nothing to negate the fact of the enemy's depravity.
and yes i stand by all of them
In that case you're just stoopid. But we guessed that going into this conversation.
however on number 2
i would like the word terrorist
in quotations
Sorry. I washed out of a spelling bee when I was in 7th grade. I wanted to go back and change the spelling of the word I'd screwed up, too. The judges wouldn't let me.
dont fear “TERRORISTS” - they are mothers and fathers
The fact that they're mothers and fathers doesn't change the fact that they want to "CUT YOUR HEAD OFF." Since you're not heterosexual, though, you could merely get by with having a brick wall dropped on you.
u see
I don't...
since terror been used to scare americans
since 9 11
terrorists - terrorists - everywhere
all of them - bad guys
terrorists - after us - here and there
they sold it
we bought it
Apparently you haven't bought it. That's really too bad, since it puts you on their side. Y'see, in their very own words - read through the Rantburg classix - they don't believe in democracy. They believe in rule by Allah, as interpreted by his holy men, kind of like the Papal States, only on a worldwide scale. They don't believe in individual liberty. You're required to worship their God, you're required to dress the way they tell you, and if you decide you don't want to be a Muslim they'll kill you. Even if you keep on being a Muslim, if you say the wrong thing, they'll kill you. Ask Salman Rushdie.
we gave away r civil liberties
fear works
Not as well as murder and intimidation, of course. You think this is bad, spend a coupla months in Peshawar.
the 911 terrorists
most came from saudi arabia
and we invaded 2 other countries
minor details
We could have done that. Soddy Arabia's a festering sore, the origin of the financing of the war against us. If you're the kind of chess player who burns everything on the board trying to assault your opponent's king that's what you'd have done, though I can't recall hearing you suggest it while the rubble was smoking in Noo Yawk. At the time, Binny was in Afghanistan, which was the very first country we did invade. Saddam was a different kind of pimple, but there were reasons for going after him. Y'see, this isn't a game with only one player, and when we went in and kicked over his traces the other side made their countermove. This is actually not the same war we entered against Sammy. We won that one. The mission really was accomplished. Now we're fighting simultaneous wars against al-Qaeda and Iran and the Iraqi Baath party revanchists. Those last wouldn't present much of a threat without the other two, by the way.
We know you don't pay any attention, since you're busy doing all sorts of important stuff, but the diplomatic war's been nearly as bloody, just in a different manner, as the shooting war. Qaddaffy's thrown in the checked towel of terrorism and decided to become a capitalist or an African or something. The GIA's not running around in Algeria slitting kiddies' throats by the dozen. Syria was forced to withdraw from Lebanon, though they're trying hard to get their proxy running things. Shamil is dead in the Caucasus - not our doing, that I know of, but that particular holy war is on its last legs, barring an infusion of cash and Arabs. The Pentagon Gang's gone, Abu Sayyaf's almost all gone and the MILF's decided they want to negotiate. You've missed some victories that deserved parades down Main Street while you were so busy, Rosie, as well as some defeats that'd have you howling for Bush's head for reasons you haven't even thought of yet.
here is the point
i was trying to make
to elisabeth
who cant see any of “them”
as anything but terrorists
You're the one who's confused. We don't see them all as terrorists, which is what puts our national foot in the moral bucket. We have the power to turn the entire Islamic world into rubble, to exterminate enough of their 1.5 billion souls that the survivors wouldn't amount to a significant number. We don't do it because we see the inhabitants of that world as human beings, each with his/her/its own worth. Being civilized, we don't do murder, much less mass murder.
But neither can you make the mistake of seeing them all as noble freedumb fighters. They're not. Perhaps there's something in the Islamic holy water that makes them want to organize themselves into criminal conspiracies and militias, organizations like Pakistan's TNSM or the Taliban or Hamas or Iran's Pasdaran or the Muslim Brotherhood or Lashkar-e-Taiba or al-Qaeda itself. I wasn't kidding about the Dick Tracy versus Flatop/Pruneface/Whomever aspect of it all. The civilized world really is under attack by homicidal midgets, insidious pintos, and evil villains who stroke their beards as they mutter their threats to the latter-day equivalents of Jack Armstrong and the lovely but dumb Cynthia. Their enemy is individual liberty. That's their target. They want to exterminate it and reduce The Masses™ (listen for the occasional reference to them) into minions and myrmidons and other flavors of serf.
hundreds of thousands of humans
not “terrorists”
iraqi mothers and fathers
have been killed by US
Considerably less than "hundreds of thousands," unless you buy the doctored figures from the Lancet. You always have to look inside the poke, Rosie, to see if there's actually a pig in there. Even the UN doesn't come up with that many Iraqi corpses, and I think we can pretty well guarantee that the vast majority of Iraqi corpses these days are being produced by their coreligionists.
those innocent ones
the mothers and fathers
they r not “terrorists”
The same applies to Kashmir, where Pakland is waging an absolutely unsubtle war of plausible deniability. The holy men pushing the carnage point to the "90,000" dead, calling them sunk costs too great to walk away from. Less biased figures run about half that, with most of the dead being Paks and the local homicidal serfs and the next highest proportion being civilian casualties, most of them caused by the ruthless minions' inability to throw a hand grenade without killing a dozen or two innocent bystanders. We don't make that up, by the way. We get it mostly from the Pak papers every day, though occasionally from the Indian.
try to paint with a huge brush
a big mess
Yeah. Ain't it the truth. Try to generalize from a handful of "received wisdom" facts and the picture you come up with coulda been painted by Salvador Dali on a really bad day.
borderlines everywhere
I'm not sure if that means anything or if you just needed the syllables to make it something like haiku. Or maybe you're smoking that Drano stuff again. That's bad for your mind, y'know.
the media has demonized arabs
the facts about the death toll on all sides
is sickening and under reported
We just finished discussing the real facts about the death toll.And it's not the media that's demonized the Arabs. It's the Arabs' stench of brimstone, the never-ending, interminable tiresome truculence, the threats of Dire Revenge™ punctuated by explosions and poorly-aimed gunshots. It's the continuous stream of lies, even when the truth would have done them better. It's their great bat wings, their baleful eyes, their habit of vomiting swarms of bees, and their habit of oppressing their own people.
i am against this war
i support all the troops
i want them home
Then you don't support the troops, because the troops are in contact with the enemy each and every day. Most of the troops aren't running around saying "oh, Rosie, bring us home!" Most are saying "let me at those bastards!" That's because most of the troops, unlike you, can sympathize with the Iraq populace, who're real, live, thinking, sweating, bleeding people. Some of them are even, despite their religion, delightful examples of humanity. Has it occurred to you that our soldiers may want to accept the responsibility, painful as it may be, of hunting down and killing the bastards who've been oppressing those poor people since sometime around 3800 B.C.?
i have decided that from now on
i will talk about other things
on the view
Good idea. Stay away from politix and religion. Maybe you'll get some of your viewers back.
like y thousands still live in renaissance village
18 months after katrina
I have no idea. Why don't you send somebody down there to investigate? You can afford it. It's the slow season at Blogads, so you've got lots more money than I do.
or that 28 million american children live in dire poverty
that 1/2 of all black and hispanic kids in america
do not graduate from high school
1 in 150 autistic = EPIDEMIC
half a million children r in foster care
they r lost
the system is broken
Oh, woe is us! I often wonder what happened to our society in the years following 1945. We were seemingly a much happier society, more optimistic, more adventurous, and even more coherent in the days of the Great Depression and during the Second World War.
Think about that. We had much more optimism when things were empirically much worse. Maybe you should hire some ace reporters to investigate that, Rosie.
from now on i will not raise my voice
about this criminal administration
i am sick of screaming IMPEACH
Well, that's swell. We're sick of hearing you hollering about it.
unreal
from now on i will say
unreal
ok
just know on the inside
i will be yelling
That's okay, just as long as it's not disturbing our concentration on the important stuff.
unreal
i am registering as an independent
cause i am sick of both sides
cowardly silence
as democracy dies
finally a blog
no pray
no play
Let us know if you find anything out on that Katrina thing.