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Olde Tyme Religion
Ayaan Hirsi Ali's visit stirs debate
2007-04-22
A community debate over religious freedom surfaced in Western Pennsylvania last week when Dutch feminist author Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali refugee who has lived under the threat of death for denouncing her Muslim upbringing, made an appearance at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown.

Islamic leaders tried to block the lecture, which was sponsored through an endowment from the Frank J. and Sylvia T. Pasquerilla Lecture Series. They argued that Hirsi Ali's attacks against the Muslim faith in her book, "Infidel," and movie, "Submission," are "poisonous and unjustified" and create dissension in their community.
How interesting: dissent, eh? Wonder who's dissenting? Mayhaps the wimmins in the local Muslim community are getting the message?
Although university officials listened to Islamic leaders' concerns, the lecture planned last year took place Tuesday evening under tight security, with no incidents.

Imam Fouad ElBayly, president of the Johnstown Islamic Center, was among those who objected to Hirsi Ali's appearance. "She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death," said ElBayly, who came to the U.S. from Egypt in 1976.
How soon can we deport this mook?
Although ElBayly believes a death sentence is warranted for Hirsi Ali, he stressed that America is not the jurisdiction where such a crime should be punished.
Fouad should go on a list and should be watched very carefully.
Instead, Hirsi Ali should be judged in a Muslim country after being given a trial, he added. "If it is found that a person is mentally unstable, or a child or disabled, there should be no punishment," he said. "It's a very merciful religion if you try to understand it."
We tried. No thanks.
Posted by:ryuge

#8  Or will we -- once more -- hear about how he was "taken out of context"?

I'd rather hear about how he was "taken out".
Posted by: Zenster   2007-04-22 20:21  

#7  So, how many "interfaith" events has this guy gone to? How much press coverage has he gotten, declaring him a "moderate"?

Will the members of the Johnstown Islamic Center disown him? Or will we -- once more -- hear about how he was "taken out of context"?
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2007-04-22 13:46  

#6  Excal, was thinking the same thing. At the bare minimum the prick should be deported yesterday!

The great part of the story (on the honest side) is ElBayly's admitting the violent nature of Muhamhead's death cult (piece of pork be upon him). Think about it. A women, black and muslim condemning Islam. Talk about the ultimate insult for Moon People and their telling reaction. Two words, hang him.
Posted by: Icerigger   2007-04-22 11:18  

#5  As a Christian I am happy to express my opinion that ElBayly should be tried and convicted for incitement to murder. Personally, I believe this conviction should carry a death sentence.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-04-22 09:40  

#4  They call a death threat a 'debate'?

Sounds to me like this Islamic center needs to be investigated (or at least searched) at least and this 'leader' deported.

Can you imagine the uproar if a Christian had said something like this (not that they ever would...)? They would be hung in the media.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2007-04-22 07:00  

#3  Welcome to Rantburg, Percy Clomonter. Please let us know about your own particular background with respect to Islam. Barring that, I hope that you will feel welcome here.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-04-22 05:00  

#2  100% correct on every count, Zenster

And I admire Ayaan Hirsi Ali's enormous courage in refusing to be intimidated by this murderous cult.
Posted by: Percy Clomonter1426   2007-04-22 03:46  

#1  Although ElBayly believes a death sentence is warranted for Hirsi Ali

Enough. Right there are grounds for revocation of immigration or citizenship.

he stressed that America is not the jurisdiction where such a crime should be punished.

But that does not stop him from pronouncing a death sentence, however qualified. Somewhere there is a susceptible jihadi willing to accept ElBayly's word on this and act accordingly. When will our government understand that this forms a substantial basis for Sudden Jihad Syndrome"?

Instead, Hirsi Ali should be judged in a Muslim country after being given a trial, he added.

Suuuuuuure. As if they have any concept of trial by peer or constitutional law. FOAD, ElBayly.

"If it is found that a person is mentally unstable, or a child or disabled, there should be no punishment," he said. "It's a very merciful religion if you try to understand it."

Your "merciful religion" has already killed thousands of Americans. Only when your ummah has killed thousands of jihadist imams — like yourself — will I begin to believe that it deserves another moment of survival.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-04-22 02:55  

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