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Home Front: WoT
Four plead not guilty to terrorism charges
2007-04-25
TOLEDO, Ohio - Four men pleaded not guilty Tuesday to charges that they plotted to recruit and train terrorists to attack U.S. and allied troops overseas. Zubair A. Ahmed, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Wassim I. Mazloum are accused of conspiring to kill or maim people outside the United States, including military personnel in Iraq.
Names I usually associate with Toledo are Bob, Hank, Tyrone and Jose.
A fifth man, Khaleel Ahmed, 26, pleaded not guilty to similar charges last month. He and Zubair Ahmed, 27, are cousins from Illinois. Amawi, El-Hindi and Mazloum live in Ohio. All are U.S. citizens except Mazloum, who came to the U.S. legally from Lebanon.
Want to bet the four who are citizens weren't born here?
The five sought recruits and sites for training in firearms, hand-to-hand combat and the use of explosives, according to the indictment. They also are accused of agreeing to raise funds for training and downloading Internet information on improvised explosive devices.

Prosecutors said Khaleel and Zubair Ahmed attended a Muslim convention in Cleveland in 2004 with El-Hindi and a former U.S. military man who helped foil the plot. The men talked about a five-year plan to carry out their mission, said Gregg Sofer, a Justice Department attorney, during a detention hearing. "This conversation is nothing short of devastating," he said.

Zubair Ahmed's attorney, Terry Gilbert, said the men never took any action. "Is that a crime to talk about guns?" asked Gilbert. "There's no talk about jihad. There's no talk about killing Americans."
That was next.
U.S. District Judge James Carr ordered that the Ahmeds be released upon posting bond, which he set at $500,000. He noted that the cousins had known for a year they and others were under investigation but did not try to flee. The five men face a maximum penalty of life in prison if convicted of conspiring to kill Americans overseas, according to federal prosecutors.

Steve Hartman, El-Hindi's attorney, said his client has maintained his innocence from the beginning. Hartman said the government's informant overreached and instigated the investigation. "I think he created a vast majority of this case," Hartman said.
"Lies! All lies!"
The three men from the Toledo area were arraigned on new charges filed by federal prosecutors two months ago. They were first arrested in February 2006. The three were charged with conspiring to provide material support to terrorists. Amawi also was charged with verbally threatening the president of the United States and unlawful distribution of a video about suicide bomber vests. Amawi and El-Hindi also were charged with distributing information about explosive chemicals downloaded from the Internet.
Posted by:Steve White

#9  Jackal: Your comment brought back a long-buried memory about a summer day in 19and 68 when a friend and I blasted south from Kalamazoo in his 65 Ranchero to stock up the (highly illegal and muchly desired) M-80 firecrackers. It was a great day and we even made it safely back to scenic Gull Lake where we proceeded to light and toss several into the water (Dupont lure-style fishing) I guess the gunpowder residue has a bad effect on marine plant life, it took several years before the seaweed returned to that area...Thanks for the trip.
Posted by: USN, ret.   2007-04-25 22:59  

#8  Zubair A. Ahmed, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Wassim I. Mazloum are accused

There's that silly ol' name again! How surprising to see it pop up in yet another terrorism case. What are the odds?!? I look forward to the day when naming your child Mohammad is about as popular as naming your kid Adolph. Rest assured, that day is coming. The only question is whether six million of us will have to die once again before the change happens.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-04-25 21:23  

#7  Back when I was growing up, Toledo was that South-of-the-Border town where you could buy things you couldn't in Michigan (certain firecrackers, booze before 21). I'm sure that's no longer the case.
Posted by: Jackal   2007-04-25 21:04  

#6  "Have you ever been to Toledo, Ohio
I spent a week there one day".
Groucho Marx
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2007-04-25 20:26  

#5  The great probability is that this is the norm among US Muslim population. They are all conspiring at one level or another to destroy the host. Leave Iraq to be the natural shithole it is. Concentrate on expelling all vestiges of Islam from free our free society. Outlaw the practice of Islam as an enemy political subterfuge. Expel all practicers and deviants such as black Nation of Islam. This is the real danger faced by American citizens. Allow them to rot in their dumps. Starve them. If necessary innoculate them with high levels of energetic neutrons.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970   2007-04-25 12:03  

#4  The usual suspects. A few miles north is Detroit--or Islam West.
Posted by: JohnQC   2007-04-25 09:59  

#3  Also, John Denver:
"Saturday night in Toledo, Ohio
Is like being nowhere at all
All through the day the hours rush by
You sit in the park and watch the grass die..."


And in the old city of Toledo (pronounced "To-Lay-Do") there is a little cross-street named "Toledo d'Ohio". Really. I've seen pics of the street sign.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom   2007-04-25 07:53  

#2  The name I associate with Toledo is Corporal Max Klinger.
Posted by: Glenmore   2007-04-25 07:16  

#1  Toledostan?
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2007-04-25 06:06  

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