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India-Pakistan
Jihadis can't agree on who worships Allah correctly.
2007-05-05
A victim of rivalry between two jihadist groups, Ansar ul-Islam and Lashkar-e-Islam. This could be essentially nothing more than a turf war, but it is significant that it takes on theological coloring -- for theological appeals to the purity and authenticity of Islam underlie much jihad recruitment today.

"Pak Sikh expelled for not embracing 'authentic Islam,'" from PTI, with thanks to Infidel:
ISLAMABAD: An Islamist group in Pakistan has forced a Sikh, who had converted to Islam 29 years ago, to leave his village in Peshawar's Tirah Valley after his house was set on fire and his son kidnapped for not embracing "authentic Islam".
"That ain't the correct version of the Religion of Peace™ he's practicin'! Beat him up and burn his house down!"
"Yes, your immensity!"
"And kidnap his kid, too!"

Leaders of Ansar-ul-Islam (AI), a religious group in North West Frontier Province's Khyber Agency, was accused of expelling the Tirah-based Sikh for converting to the "Lashkar-e-IslamÂ’s untrue version of Islam".
"Wastin' his time, he is! Might as well have not converted in the first place."
"Qazi Mehboob and Said Akbar came to me and said my first Islam is not genuine. They said it was tablighi Islam," said Din Muhammad, who had converted to Islam 29 years ago. The Ansar-ul-Islam leaders also forced his family to leave their native village Landakas in Tirah Valley when he refused to accept their demand to revert to Sikhism or embrace the "authentic Islam" that the Ansar-ul-Islam was practising. He accused the Ansar-ul-Islam activists of kidnapping one of his four sons and forcing him to a pay a ransom of Rs 200,000 for his release. They also set his house on fire a month ago and seized his land.
Posted by:Delphi2005

#9   It does seem to be accelerating, Zenster. Although it may just be that we're paying more attention.

I don't think it's just us. In an absolutely ironic twist, the same information age that helped bring about the Soviet Union's downfall is also helping to spread — not just Islamic intolerance — but increasingly stringent and radical versions of it. With the Internet it is now possible to get fatwas on everything from plucking your monobrow down to trimming your toenails. This can only increase the chances of an individual doing something different from someone else's own time honored ritual and thereby initiating a — all too often violent — dispute over which one is of greater Islamic purity.

All of this strife is the direct outcome of a cult that relies so heavily upon ritual and top-down control. All high context cultures have similar issues over authority and interpretation of law. The problems of interpretation stem from over-concentration of power in an elite class and their tendency to abuse it for their own ends. Control of information flow assumes such poisonous forms as intentionally imposed illiteracy — in women especially — and broadly constructed proscriptions that provide legal authorities maximum latitude in whom they can assail without warrant.

All of these maleficent features reach a pinnacle in Islam and its worshippers. Koranic doctrine is so overbearing and elaborate in its dicta that it is almost impossible to avoid transgressing it in a thousand petty ways. Combine this with an uneducated, violence prone male population that has been obliged to memorize this rubbish while — at the same time — assuming a position of totally undue social authority and you have a recipe for the disaster known as Muslim majority nations. Islam gives its adherents a thousand reasons to kill each other. The Muslim inclination towards violent dispute — bred of the Koran’s routinely harsh punishments — make for unending war and societal strife. As Wretchard so presciently concludes in his magnum opus, “The Three Conjectures:
Even if Islam killed every non-Muslim on earth they would almost certainly continue to kill each other with their new-found [nuclear] weaponry. Revenge bombings between rival groups and wars between different Islamic factions are the recurring theme of history. Long before 3,000 New Yorkers died on September 11, Iraq and Iran killed 500,000 Muslims between them. The greatest threat to Muslims is radical Islam; and the greatest threat of all is a radical Islam armed with weapons of mass destruction.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-05-05 22:03  

#8  Don't argue about islam. I have the answer. Walk to the ocean and then continue walking into the ocean and then keep going some more--don't stop until you find the 72 virgins. That is the one true way to worship allan.
Posted by: JohnQC   2007-05-05 18:27  

#7  And then if you sneeze the djinns get all over the room and your mother-in-law nags you forever in *that* voice.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-05-05 16:42  

#6  Allan is very particular about these things. If you don't do it right you end up with demons in your nose.
Posted by: Sonar   2007-05-05 16:32  

#5  It does seem to be accelerating, Zenster. Although it may just be that we're paying more attention. F'r instance, are the Sunni/Shia interactions in Iraq causing more deaths than Saddam Hussein and his henchmen did back in the day? Or is it just that the plastic shredder casualties were not reported?
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-05-05 16:03  

#4  Ali Sina has the best idea for worshipping allen. JUST SAY NO.
Posted by: Brett   2007-05-05 16:03  

#3  Another dose of "more Islamic than thou" bullshit. Thank goodness it so often leads to them killing each other. Too bad a lot more of them don't off each other with even greater frequency. It would solve the whole problem for us.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-05-05 15:58  

#2  I think this is a very serious matter. If a raised welt the size of a walnut is not conspicuously visble, the proper technique is not being observed. Much more velocity prior to contact with the floor is required. Just keep banging your goddamned skulls on the bricks. No wonder these asses act so crazy. They have concusssions leading to Parkinsons. Carry on faster please.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970   2007-05-05 13:01  

#1  Not popcorn worthy.
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-05-05 11:32  

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