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Iraq
(ABC) EXCLUSIVE: F-16s Destroy Purported Terror Camp in Iraq
2007-05-11
This gives me the warm fuzzies in spite of the outrageously hedged headline. ABC would apparently have us believe it was just as likely to be a bunny ranch or some kind of jumbo paintball range.
U.S. Air Force F-16s obliterated three truck-mounted anti-aircraft weapons and killed 10 to 14 al Qaeda operatives near Fallujah on Tuesday, according to the military. The military believes they were al Qaeda terrorists engaged in an operation targeting coalition aircraft. "We've had about 11 helicopters that have been shot at and hit over the last four months in that location," Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, spokesman for Multinational Force Iraq, told ABC News.

The Department of Defense gave ABC News first access to imagery of the night operation that was carried out a little more than 48 hours ago. The three-minute video begins with imagery from an unmanned aerial vehicle. The operator of the drone first spotted a truck with anti-aircraft weaponry mounted on it driving in the area. The drone followed the truck as it drove to a nearby training compound. "When we spotted this truck, we continued to follow it until it went to that compound where it's obviously doing some kind of training," Caldwell explained.

The video shows what appears to be al Qaeda members firing anti-aircraft weapons from the trucks as they train to take over an abandoned building.
or it might be a new high-tech duck food projector imported from Sweden or some other enlightened paradise.
The small black images are artillery rounds being fired from the trucks and some can be seen richocheting off the structures.
or bunny food packets. Odd that ABC is so skeptical elsewhere but accepts the factuality of this statement at face value. Probably just a slip into integrity.
Because the operation began in the late evening, the drone used thermal heat imagery which made it easy to spot the activity.
Works much better than thermal cold imagery.
Caldwell told ABC News, "We then called in aircraft support to bring in some precision munitions and once it was established there was no apparent civilians in the area, the decision was made to engage and destroy the anti-aircraft truck."

The truck was taken out by an F-16. Two other trucks and some other vehicles subsequently fled the compound. "We continued to track them," Caldwell said, "and when they stopped along the side of the road, they were taken out by F-16s as well."
The second one blowed up REAL good.
"Four wheel drive don't fail me now ..."
All of this is seen on the video shot by the drones as well as the F-16 gun camera. The tracking and eventual destruction of the three trucks took approximately two hours.

Caldwell describes the significance of this operation as a "seven to eight at least" on a scale of one to ten. "They're extremely lethal if they're able to engage our helicopters and so for us, that was critical to get that type of equipment eliminated," he said.

The military said the entire assault continued with a ground attack -- not seen on the video -- after the drone continued to track two cars that had fled the compound and driven to a nearby town. "We launched a precision raid with helicopters and ground assault forces went in and we were able to detain eight individuals that we believe had been associated with that training earlier in the evening," Caldwell said. Based on preliminary debriefings of the detainees, Caldwell said, the military was able to determine they were al Qaeda. It is unclear if they were fighters from outside Iraq.
10 to 14 of them are a permanent addition to the Iraqi landscape in any case.
Posted by:Atomic Conspiracy

#19  There are terror camps and operations centers, AKA: mosques.
Posted by: Sneaze   2007-05-11 20:51  

#18  Please, GW...for the sake of the US and the soldiers and marines in harm's way: Declare the border region of Iraq and Iran a free-fire zone from sundown until sun up. No apologies. No regrets. If one soldier or marine lives to go home to his family it will be worth it.
Posted by: anymouse   2007-05-11 16:51  

#17  I'm not a bot, but I play one on TV and Rantburg!
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-05-11 16:50  

#16  uropian is a bot

Apparently this bot's chinese is better than its english. :-)
Posted by: gorb   2007-05-11 16:07  

#15  Traffic is traffic Frank.
Posted by: Shipman   2007-05-11 13:25  

#14  I'm a bit naive but my understanding of a bot is that it's an internet robot that fowards messages from some website. How does this work? What I mean is why would a person use a BOT?
Posted by: JohnQC   2007-05-11 12:51  

#13  uropian is a bot
Posted by: Frank G   2007-05-11 11:52  

#12  Somebody will have to start the turnaround in the media. Maybe this is not the beginning of the end, but it might be the end of the beginning. I'm crossin' my fingers.
Posted by: Bobby   2007-05-11 11:25  

#11  DoD is reporting ten plus killed.

Despite the phrasing, this is a real nice surprise from ABC. Didn't expect this sort of report from old media.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2007-05-11 11:18  

#10  DarthV

Can't help remembering that old commercial......

"Parts is parts."

Hopefully extra crispy.
Posted by: AlanC   2007-05-11 10:44  

#9  Yes, uropian, this is a site better than other sites. From this AA takeout, I now assume we are winning this war against insurgency in Iraq. Why ?
Because we will not give back anything now. They can't just repopulate and while we are sitting ducks for underground forces with land bombs, they are up against air surveillance, civilian tips, territorial battles, and potential border interceptions, not to mention intel gained from torture questioning captives.
In fact, the only win for them is the democrat party. This fact will become more apparent in coming weeks. What a stupid way to head into a presidential election.
Posted by: wxjames   2007-05-11 10:43  

#8  Nor can Mehtap! I want to say that your site better throughout the World Wide Web :)
Thank you. Keep it.
Posted by: uropian   2007-05-11 09:57  

#7  John QC - for what reason God only knows.

Don't you mean "Allah"? The MSM doesn't believe in God only in their own infallibility. Remember the kids in school who took journalism, worked on the school paper or yearbook. Remember how smarmy they were. Well they now work for NYTs/ABC/WaPo/Newsweek, et.al.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-05-11 09:50  

#6  al Qaeda members firing anti-aircraft weapons from the trucks as they train to take over an abandoned building.

Interesting (in the 'Chinese meaning' of the word).
Posted by: Pappy   2007-05-11 09:47  

#5  Purported report of a purported strike against purported terror camp.

Ha. :)

..."obliterated three truck-mounted anti-aircraft weapons and killed 10 to 14 al Qaeda operatives near Fallujah..."

They didn't meet the standard for the usual spin but...

Our MSM is worse than Baghdad Bob. It was a baby milk and aspirin factory. It was a wedding celebration. There was a religious feast. It was a mosque. These slack jar apologists for terrorists aid and abet the terrorists--for what reason God only knows.
Posted by: JohnQC   2007-05-11 09:41  

#4  The guns on these technicals are mostly Russian 12.7 and 14.5 mm machine guns, which are as common as dirt in that part of the world. There are reports of other guns being used, and the one in the video is obviously larger than 14.5mm, but those too would be fairly common in those parts.

The "technical" simply takes a towed multiple mount for these and attaches it to the cargo area of a heavy duty pickup. The vehicles could be modified locally or across the border in Iran with quite simple facilities.

The interesting part is the relative accuracy these have displayed. They are not weapons the average jihadi would be able to use effectively without quite extensive training. My guess is that they sneak over the border into Iran for training on similar Revolutionary Guard rigs. This would allow for unfettered use of specialized ranges and such things as the services of target-towing aircraft and electronic scoring arrays.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2007-05-11 09:33  

#3  So... any ideas where these AA technicals are being sourced? Paid for? I expect some Orcish strategist has decided going after helicopter transport and air cover pays dividends.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-05-11 08:58  

#2  Parts and pieces. Just how I like my terrorists.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-05-11 08:18  

#1  A number of thoughts came to my mind when I read the headline, but AC pretty well covered them all!
Posted by: Bobby   2007-05-11 06:09  

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