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Israel mulls response to Gaza rocket fire
2007-05-14
Israel’s influential security cabinet was meeting on Sunday to review possible responses to near daily Palestinian rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip that violate a six-month-old truce. Although several ministers have called for a resumption of targeted killings of suspected militants, the meeting was not expected to approve a full-scale ground operation in the densely populated and violent territory. “We should not launch a deep operation but a surgical and pinpointed operation. Going into Gaza for a year is completely useless,” Trade Minister Eli Yishai, a member of the security cabinet, told AFP on Sunday.
I'm glad to see somebody's wearing his thinking cap. A ground incursion into Gaza when the Paleos are busily self-destructing would have the effect of giving them a common enemy. Targeted killings probably would, too. Precisely proportionate responses -- one round in Israel, one round fired back at Paleostine -- makes a lot more sense, especially since the Israelis can aim better than Hamas or IJ. Limiting the response that way would make the Paleos look stoopid, complaining about receiving what they've just given. But I doubt if Olmert's smart enough to think up something like that.
“We should concentrate on bringing order through targeted killings, the destruction of infrastructure and of military headquarters,” he said.
See what I mean? Forget the targeted killings for now -- they're the wrong weapon. Don't use helis or F15s. Use artillery, preferably MLRS, and pound the launch sites if they're fixed by counterbattery radar, otherwise whatever military thing is convenient and within range.
Environment Minister Gideon Ezra, from Olmert’s centrist Kadima party, also called for “several better alternatives” to a large-scale operation “if and when we decide to launch an operation.”
Probably didn't bother presenting any better alternatives, but that's okay. There's no reason on earth for the Minister of Environment to be present a a military policy meeting.
Immigrant Absorption Minister Zeev Boim said that while Israel should take action he did not counsel taking over the entire territory. “We should weigh expanding the operation. We should change our policy of restraint, but I don’t suggest taking over the entire Gaza Strip. That would be a honey trap. There’s a lot (to do) between restraint and that,” he said.
No reason for the immigration minister to be there, either, though he seems to have the right idea: the purpose of the rocketry is to cause an overreaction, which gains the Paleos support, to include financial support, in the Arab world, at the cost of a few corpses. It has the side benefit of presenting a common enemy, but we already knew that.
The Israeli army said Palestinian militants fired five rockets from the Gaza Strip on Sunday, but reported only one impact inside Israel.
Gaza should have received five salvoes of well-aimed MLRS in return. Barring that, five battery-sized (i.e., 6-gun) salvoes of artillery.
Last week IsraelÂ’s top public watchdog, State Comptroller Micha Lindenstrauss, blasted the army for failing to tackle Palestinian rocket fire from the Gaza Strip. The army says that about 300 rockets have been fired into Israel since a November ceasefire, under which Israeli troops withdrew from the territory and Palestinians agreed to halt rocket fire. Most of the projectiles land in open ground, causing neither casualties nor damage.
Posted by:Fred

#14  Shut the water off already.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2007-05-14 23:31  

#13  The Paleo Gazans overpumped their aquifer, so their wells have gone brackish or saline, so under Oslo Agreements, Israel sells water and electricity to the Paleos, aka the Palestinian Authority. If the Paleos are going to allow an act of war by firing Israely sewer pipe missiles back at Israel, then the PA has no authority.

So the problem of the Gaza Rockets lies with Israel, and the fact that the Olmert govt puts up with their crap. Simple answer is to shut off water and electricity. That will get their attention, if the Paleos have 3 brain cells still connected together. Stop the attacks and you get some water again. Pavlov's dog learned, heh. Ding Ding.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2007-05-14 23:19  

#12  WxJames
All the Gaza water goes through Israeli mains.
It is simple to just turn it off. Leave them thirsty until the missiles quit flying.

Posted by: 3dc   2007-05-14 21:51  

#11  Control of the water, heh ?
Put a wetting agent in the water, then let them poop themselves into a coma.
Tell them Allan did it.
rinse, repeat
Posted by: wxjames   2007-05-14 21:05  

#10  Just turn off the water and wait a few thirsty days.

Bozos!
Posted by: 3dc   2007-05-14 19:32  

#9  Gaza Strip: aka IDF D9 Driver Ed School and Proving Grounds.
Posted by: USN. Ret.   2007-05-14 13:54  

#8  Does Israel have "Steel Rain?"
Posted by: SR-71   2007-05-14 13:15  

#7  What Woozle said. Otherwise the phakestinians just need to launch from a playground/hospital/whatever and watch the counter-battery fire do their propaganda work for them.

Though I agree it is best to hold off while they are killing one another. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-05-14 12:46  

#6  I would suggest that collateral damage is just the antidote required. Precise targeting should be reserved for critical targets only. Firing from someones backyard should result in an entire block being reduced to rubble. Some dimwits are slow learners.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970   2007-05-14 11:15  

#5  I vote for leveling the entire strip with MRLS and artillery in response to rocket attacks. Then, if they fire again, Napalm the joint. Rinse and repeat as necessary.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-05-14 11:09  

#4  "otherwise whatever military thing is convenient and within range"

I presume thats the problem. Pals dont have, AFAIK, military bases out in open areas, near the border or otherwise. Everything is security forces, in the cities. If youre going to hit the cities, you will have less collateral damage with helis, or even F-15s, than with artillery, Id think.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-05-14 10:08  

#3  "We should change our policy of restraint, but I donÂ’t suggest taking over the entire Gaza Strip. That would be a honey trap. ThereÂ’s a lot (to do) between restraint and that,” he said."

I dont think honey trap means what he thinks it means.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-05-14 10:06  

#2  "There's no reason on earth for the Minister of Environment to be present a a military policy meeting"

Parliamentary system, fred. Collective cabinet responsibility. Cabinet ministers in Israel, at least as much as in UK, Germany, etc are NOT technocrats, they are pols, whose main job is representing their party/faction in the govt. And as a side benefit, use their ministry to hand out patronage to their party/faction. The more senior ministries, Foreign affairs, Defense, Finance, are somewhat different, (which is why folks were upset at Peretz as DM) but basically having the environment or housing minister participate, is more equivalent to having the senior white house staff, and senior cong leaders of the presidents party, involved, than it is to a US cabinet meeting.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-05-14 10:05  

#1  Hizbs are shooting, Israelis trucing. I like artillery. Cheap (relative to JDAM, etc.) and so impressive on the receiving end. A few of these exchanges ought to clear the air.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970   2007-05-14 00:36  

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