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Home Front: WoT
Denial in Britain
2007-07-03
By Robert Spencer

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The problem is, therefore, much bigger than British authorities think, and much bigger than they are even now willing to admit. Until they are willing to face the fact that attackers such as those we have seen in Britain over the last few days couldn’t just as well have been Buddhists, but rather arise from the Islamic community and base their actions upon Islamic principles, they will not be dealing with the root of this problem realistically, and we are going to see many more attacks. “I believe,” said Butt, “that the issue of terrorism can be easily demystified if Muslims and non-Muslims start openly to discuss the ideas that fuel terrorism.” Do Brown, Livingstone, Salmond and the rest have the courage to do this?
Posted by:ed

#7  We haven't had a poll recently of what the Brits really think. I would guess that the staff of the BBC, the cabinet of the Mayor of London, some union leadership, the faculty lounge at a few Universities, still believes Islam is a religion of peace but the population as a whole is getting the picture.
Posted by: mhw   2007-07-03 16:08  

#6  You could be right about that, Zen,. If the west can break the financial backs of the indoctrination centers colled mosques and schools, your prediction could easily be expected as the eventual outcome. If a person isn't indoctrinated from the time they are as long as my forearm, that is very reasonable to assume. If a people get a fair chance at seeing all of the worlds religions, it's plain as day that Islam is mostly garbage.
Posted by: Mike N.   2007-07-03 12:05  

#5  Osama Saeed of the Muslim Association of Britain, meanwhile, expressed exasperation at the fact that non-Muslims expected Muslims to be active in opposing terror activities within the Islamic community: “We are seething with anger about this,” he said – that is, about the idea that jihad plots should be seen as a challenge to the larger Islamic community to do more against terrorism, not about the jihad plots themselves. “As a community,” he said, “not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this. We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it.”

This, from someone named "Osama". Guess what, sport? Muslims define themselves through Islam and Islam defines itself through the Koran. The Koran is definitive about committing violence against all non-believers and that's where the trail ends: Smack in the heart of the Muslim community. Until Muslims begin a vigorous campaign of ousting the jihadists within their midst, they will be regarded as being in agreement with them. The Muslim community's deafening silence no longer signifies consent, it has become a lie.

As the plots continued to be investigated over the weekend, no British officials were saying anything at all about the need for Muslims in Britain to redouble their efforts to teach against the jihad ideology of Islamic supremacism, to formulate new understandings of the Qur’an and Sunnah, rejecting the literal and mainstream legal interpretations of a large number of passages, to renounce any intention to impose Sharia in Britain at any time in the future, and to work much more closely with British authorities in order to root out jihadists from their ranks. In Britain, only the ex-jihadist Hassan Butt, who now calls himself a moderate Muslim, spoke more realistically about what needs to be done: “It isn’t enough for Muslims to say that because they feel at home in Britain they can simply ignore those passages of the Koran which instruct on killing unbelievers. By refusing to challenge centuries-old theological arguments, the tensions between Islamic theology and the modern world grow larger every day.”

The modern world is increasingly immune to Muslim attempts at blaming external factors for those tensions. Islam it the "root cause" of terrorism and until that changes it will be viewed as the enemy by all sane people. No amount of economic improvement, regime change or education can alter the Koran's exhortations to violence and global domination. If, as it has for centuries, Islam refuses to modify its doctrine, it will be ground under the bootheel of a world grown weary of constant terrorist predation. Many other unsuccessful adaptations have perished from their inability to coexist at large and Islam will join their ranks if it too cannot reform.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-07-03 11:58  

#4  British BBC: American New York Times

The New York Times circulation and profits are both trending strongly downward, and have been for some years now, Bright Pebbles dear. I hope that helps.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-07-03 10:08  

#3   Ideas that fuel terrorism: Jihad, Sharia, Taqqiya, much of the Hadith, martyrdom operations, death for apostasy/blasphemy, idolization of the Koran, etc. etc.
Posted by: Pearl Greaper5013   2007-07-03 09:33  

#2  I hope you yanks have learnt by now that what is on BBC "news" is the opposite of what people in the U.K. are really thinking.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan   2007-07-03 09:06  

#1  BBC news have just been reporting the bombing attempts (all in a tone of near jolly excitement lest viewers take these attempts at mass murder too seriously) and interviewed Muslims in East London. According the the Beeb 'all interviewed condemned the attacks) yet all those interviewed made mealy-mouthed apologies for the psychopathic physicians, blaming British foreign policy. It washes weaker every time.
Posted by: Bulldog   2007-07-03 08:22  

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