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Afghanistan
100 militants killed in Afghan fighting
2007-07-07
KABUL, Afghanistan - Fierce fighting broke out around Afghanistan on Friday, with battles in three separate regions killing more than 100 militants, part of a cycle of rapidly rising violence five years into the U.S.-led effort to defeat the Taliban.
Some sort of good natured competition among coalition forces?
They keep putting their faces in the way, eventually we'll bruise our knuckles.
The governor of northeastern Kunar province said villagers were claiming that airstrikes had killed dozens of civilians, though he said he could not confirm the report.
Somebody other than the terrorists ought to go in and define civilians for them.
Civilians. n. 1. In the rest of the world, non-combatants, people who are not party to a fight. 2. In Afghanistan and certain other locations, camp-followers, people who follow one of the parties to a fight.
The fighting — in the south, west and northeast — continues a trend of sharply rising bloodshed the last five weeks, among the deadliest periods here since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion.
Deadliest for who?
More than 1,000 people were killed in insurgency-related violence in June alone, including 700 militants and 200 civilians. More than 3,100 people have been killed in Afghanistan this year, according to an Associated Press count based on information from Western and Afghan officials. Around 4,000 people died in violence last year.
Stay back from your keyboards lest your tears short them out again.
Dreaded summer offensive off to a rousing start, eh?
U.S.-led coalition and NATO spokesmen on Friday emphasized that ground commanders had evaluated the terrain to prevent civilians casualties, though Kunar Gov. Shalizai Dedar said villagers had reported that 10 civilians were killed in an initial airstrike, and that a second strike killed about 30 people who were trying to bury the dead.
Families call them civilians . . .
Dedar said he could not confirm the reports of civilian deaths but that he was not rejecting their validity either. He said around 60 militants died in the battle.
. . . while everyone else calls them terrorists.
U.S. and NATO officials say Taliban militants threaten villagers into claiming that attacks killed civilians.
Did we miss a few?
"There were some number of insurgents that were killed. We have no reason to believe that any civilians were killed at this time," said NATO spokesman Maj. John Thomas. He said soldiers called in airstrikes on "positively identified enemy firing positions" in a remote area.
The rule is that if you can pry the gun out of the militant's hands after he dies, you get to call him a civilian.
Civilian deaths have been a growing problem for international forces here, threatening to derail support for the Western mission. President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly implored forces to take care to prevent such deaths.
Quit it Karzai, you ain't helpin'. We go, you go.
Both a U.N. and the AP count of civilian deaths this year show that U.S. and NATO forces have caused more civilian deaths this year than Taliban fighters have.
UN? AP? Hahaha!
Meanwhile, a roadside blast struck a NATO convoy in southern Afghanistan, wounding four alliance soldiers Saturday.

The NATO convoy was attacked west of Kandahar city, and the four wounded soldiers were medically evacuated to a nearby military hospital, said Maj. John Thomas, a NATO spokesman.

Qari Yousef Ahmadi, a purported Taliban spokesman, said that the convoy was struck by a suicide bomber.

An AP reporter at the site of the blast said that those wounded were Canadian soldiers.

In the country's east, two NATO soldiers died and several others were wounded during an operation Thursday, the alliance said.

The alliance did not release the soldiers' nationalities or the location where the clash and the bombing took place. Most foreign troops in the east are American.

The latest NATO casualties raised the number of foreign soldiers killed this year to at least 105.

In the south, militants attacked two police vehicles with gunfire and rocket-propelled grenades overnight, and U.S.-led coalition and Afghan forces responded with artillery fire and airstrikes in what the coalition described as a "sparsely populated area" in Uruzgan province.

Gen. Zahir Azimi said 33 Taliban fighters were killed. The coalition reported "no indications" of civilian casualties and said no coalition or Afghan forces were killed or wounded.
Allahu akbar!
And in Farah, a western province bordering Iran that has seen little violence until this year, insurgents attacked an Afghan security patrol from fortified positions, wounding five Afghan soldiers, the coalition said.

Afghan and coalition forces, using gunfire and airstrikes, killed "over 30" insurgents, it said. The coalition also said a ground commander "carefully evaluated risk of collateral damage" before firing.
Allahu akbar!
"It is important to note that many targets were not bombed or fired on due to (Afghan) and coalition force precautions against causing collateral damage," said Maj. Chris Belcher, a coalition spokesman.
Too bad this has to be said explicitly.
Posted by:gorb

#9  Our people are worth their weight in gold - Afghanis are worth their weight in sand. We're not in Afghanistan to please the "civilians", but to put a stop to the taliwhackers. If the civilians don't want to be whacked along with them, stay away from the taliwhackers. We're at war, and it's about da$$ed time we started acting like it. Otherwise, we're going to end up losing, which is a very bad thing.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-07-07 15:01  

#8  Hopefully the locals will soon realize that having Taliban around is a death sentence, so it is always better to drive them away.

If we would stop being so precise and start inflicting some collateral damage, this might actually come to pass.
Posted by: gorb   2007-07-07 14:11  

#7  The radio 'forgot' to mention all the dead gunnies. Only shepherds and subsistence opium farmers die in Afstan, it seems.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-07-07 12:19  

#6  If you read the ISAF website, you'll see that many of the civilian deaths are due to tailgating or some such. I would respectfully suggest, based on reviewing press releases over there for a long time for Terrorist Death Watch that NATO forces can be quick on the trigger. They may also not take as much care in calling in airstrikes or arty as our troops do. The Afghans have a little bit of a beef with NATO.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2007-07-07 11:57  

#5  If them civilians wouldn't shoot at our boys they wouldn't end up dead.
Posted by: Elmereter Hupash6222   2007-07-07 11:54  

#4  IIRC if we kill a civilian, NATO will give the grieving family money. This creates a built in incentive to claim civilian deaths whenever there's any combat.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2007-07-07 11:51  

#3  More than 1,000 people were killed in insurgency-related violence in June alone, including 700 militants and 200 civilians.

Who the hell were the other 100+? Aliens?
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-07-07 11:40  

#2  Hopefully the locals will soon realize that having Taliban around is a death sentence, so it is always better to drive them away.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-07-07 10:35  

#1  Both a U.N. and the AP count of civilian deaths this year show that U.S. and NATO forces have caused more civilian deaths this year than Taliban fighters have.

Based on what? The civilians the Taliban admit they killed? Or do the AP and UN divvie them up - "Two for the infidels, one for the Freedom Fighters"?
Posted by: Bobby   2007-07-07 08:20  

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