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Home Front: Culture Wars
Immigrant parents struggle to keep their children bilingual
2007-07-23
But oh my goodness, the illegals are taking over. Heh.
LAWRENCE -- After a lunch of hot dogs and rice, Jordy Berges blasted a ball off the wall of the lunchroom at his mother's office, his stomping grounds for the summer. "No juegues aquí," Yovanna Berges scolded her 7-year-old son, telling him in Spanish to stop.

"Sorry," he answered her, in English.

Berges, an immigrant from Peru, is growing accustomed to such conversations with her son. She is struggling to raise him to speak English and Spanish fluently, which might not seem like a big challenge in the city with the highest proportion of Latinos in Massachusetts. But researchers say Berges and immigrant parents nationwide are confronting a difficult truth: Their children are losing their languages.

According to research presented to Congress in May, even the children of immigrants prefer to speak English by the time they are adults. Rubén G. Rumbaut, a sociologist at the University of California at Irvine, and his team of researchers looked at 5,700 adults in their 20s and 30s in Southern California from different generations to see how long their language survived. A key finding centered on 1,900 American-born children of immigrants. The shift toward English among them was swift: While 87 percent grew up speaking another language at home, only 34 percent said they spoke it well by adulthood. And nearly 70 percent said they preferred to speak English.

"English wins, and it does so in short order," said Rumbaut, who presented his findings to the US House Judiciary subcommittee on immigration in May. "What we're talking about is a real phenomenon."

It is difficult for children to sustain their parents' languages amid the tidal wave of American pop culture, including movies and television, coupled with societal pressure to speak only English. Most schools and communities do little to preserve bilingualism, Rumbaut said. Even bilingual education programs, which Massachusetts voters dismantled in 2002, were commonly designed to help students make the transition to English-only classrooms.

Generations of immigrants have seen their languages fade, but Rumbaut said the cost is higher now as businesses expand overseas, the United States is more diverse, and national security agencies are clamoring for people who speak foreign languages. The children themselves are losing a skill that could give them an edge in the job market.

The erosion of language cuts across all backgrounds, Rumbaut said. In his study, less than 25 percent of the US-born children of Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese immigrants said they spoke their parents' languages well. Chinese is one of the languages President Bush declared a priority for national security last year.

Spanish was found to survive longer, largely because Southern California is a high-immigrant area and Spanish is ubiquitous on television and radio and in newspapers. Still, gaps emerged. Almost all second-generation Mexican- Americans were raised speaking Spanish, but only 60 percent spoke it well by early adulthood, and half preferred English. By the third generation, barely 10 percent spoke Spanish well, according to the study; almost all preferred English.
More at the link on how immigrant parents are failing to keep their kids from speaking English, replete with examples.
Posted by:Steve White

#21  75% of all computer data is stored in English

English it the de facto language for air traffic controllers

International banking depends upon the English language

The world's second language is almost unanimously English

Need I go on?

I grew up speaking English and Danish. Guess which tongue is my language of choice?
Posted by: Zenster   2007-07-23 22:32  

#20  There is definitely great love, I would say, tw, of their language of origin-which I get. On the other extreme, I have also seen instances of a kind of linguistic chauvinism in places like LA and NYC. Invasive, proprietary.
Posted by: Jules   2007-07-23 21:58  

#19  One of the reasons English has a leg up, so to speak, on being the international language is its flexibility. I've read several articles on international language that stress how much easier it is to add a new word or a new concept in English, compared to European, Asian, or African languages. That also makes it much harder to learn, especially with some of the arcane rules of language that exist in English. I always tried to learn as much of the local language as I could when I was travelling in Europe, as a courtesy. I also found that English was widespread, and made communications much easier.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-07-23 20:55  

#18  It reminds me of an argument I have heard from a few of my Spanish-speaking students: if I do well in one thing, I can't-or shouldn't- do well in the other. If I did, I would be denigrating the first thing.

Good catch, and good point, Jules. Is this attitude a Hispanic cultural thing?
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-07-23 20:49  

#17  AlanC

Agreed.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-07-23 20:20  

#16  Where that other language comes in handy is in listening to the sotto voce side conversations you weren't meant to understand... and charming the locals by speaking in their language for a little while before they start practicing their English on you. When we lived in Europe, Mr. Wife used his German mostly when dealing with factory workers and consumers in Eastern Europe who happened to speak German rather than English. In the company office, part of his job as an expat was to train his ESL reports to communicate effectively in both American English and the company dialect thereof. He mostly used his expensive Goethe Institut training to read the Frankfurt Algemeine Zeitung.

As a trailing spouse my experience was different. With increased language skills came increased connection with the locals, and a deeper experience. But in Germany the Spanish I'd studied was almost as useful as German, in the social circle that developed, and Korean and Czech or Serb would have been as useful as Spanish for conversing at our barbecues.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-07-23 20:09  

#15  The pulse of this writing is familiar to me. It reminds me of an argument I have heard from a few of my Spanish-speaking students: if I do well in one thing, I can't-or shouldn't- do well in the other. If I did, I would be denigrating the first thing. Amazing.

If I say my son is a great baseball player, does that mean he won't be able to draw? Or shouldn't draw? The current thinking on this must evolve from either/or-it is possible to be good at both. And Berges, we are in America, querida, so yes, English is heard everywhere, every day.

Learning to speak English isn't eracing this child's Spanish-his mother still speaks to him in Spanish, and he understands her and presumably others in his community that choose to speak in Spanish. Does she somehow object to him speaking to her in English? "Growing accustomed" is an interesting choice of words. I thought she was "struggling to raise him to speak Spanish and English fluently"? Maybe she really meant Spanish first; he knows it and loves her and leaves it at that.
Posted by: Jules   2007-07-23 19:45  

#14  NS Probably the same one since Waldorf ain't all that big. BUT, even the informal communication at work is often in English and there is no big deal made about it. The personnel wandering around is so multi-national that there needs to be some common form of communication.

Not to mention that when I was over there my boss, a true Kraut, and I went to a restaurant.

I asked him what that proper way to order a dark beer was......he turned to the waiter and said "Two dark beers, bitte." ( I was expecting some variant on twzei dunkels )

I'm just trying to make the point that fluent English only is not that big a problem due to the fact that virtually any situation in business can be met with it alone because it is the most common language now across the world.
Posted by: AlanC   2007-07-23 16:44  

#13  The international company I know of in Waldorf uses English as its official language. Thus, if a German is talking to a Frenchman, the conversation should be in English; the memos certainly will. I believe this is even true for some French multinationals.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-07-23 13:58  

#12  Down here in Aztlan (Tucson) there doesn't seem to be much of a struggle...
Posted by: borgboy2001   2007-07-23 12:39  

#11  While I feel it's important to keep one's own cultures alive in the home, with a sense of one's identity is a good thing. I do however feel it necessary to come together with one language to communicate.

While I was visiting family in Ireland, a mass was said in Gaelic in my cousins honor, and how I wished I knew the language. My cousins did, but also speak English.

Important note: the ability of their children to speak English is directly proportional to the children's later financial and social success. Fully integrated children of Mexicans tend to rise very quickly up the social and economic ladder. However, those that do not integrate tend to both ghettoize and economically stagnate. How True.
Posted by: Jan    2007-07-23 10:55  

#10  Languages, like people, come and go. A tongue and people under attack and the resultant diaspora not commonly discussed is that of the Afrikaaner. In the not too distant future it is very likely that Afrikaans will no longer be spoken, except possibly in the outlands of Namibia, Bostwana, and SA which has no fewer than eleven official languages.
Posted by: Besoeker   2007-07-23 10:20  

#9  I'd like to believe this, but I'm still hip neck deep in folks not able to speak English. Not just Spanish, alot of folks now from Ethiopia, Sudan among other far away places, speaking a multitude of languages and dialects.
I like that the youth are learning English, we need to all come together speaking English.

While I was visiting Ireland this summer, I heard that to keep the Gaelic language alive, Ireland was offering free or greatly reduced college if the student spoke Gaelic. Don't know how true this is, maybe just wishful thinking.

The article reports this as a bad thing? WTF? Agreed!
Posted by: Jan    2007-07-23 09:56  

#8  "... The children themselves are losing a skill that could give them an edge in the job market."

Maybe, maybe not. I work for one of the largest globalized firms that is based in Germany.

A friend from the local office took a year long job at the HQ in Waldorf with the added benefit (he thought) of improving his German. When I saw him on a trip over there he said that everything was good EXCEPT he wasn't getting much chance to improve his Deutsch.

Seems like everyone at work speaks mostly English.

Because of globalization English is the universal second language. When you get a group of people together from all the disparate offices the only thing they have in common is ESL.

Posted by: AlanC   2007-07-23 09:45  

#7  The article reports this as a bad thing? WTF?

Because it's the Boston Globe and threatens their vision of a multicultural utopia.
But, believe me, you'd learn to speak Klingon if it'd get you the fuck outta Lawrence. And I'd seriously doubt you'd ever find a Globe reporter that lived there. Too...ethnic.
Posted by: tu3031   2007-07-23 09:10  

#6  And yet even in England the next generation don't speak their parents' Urdu, but only English. That's why they're so susceptible to the jihadis, who preach and teach in English.

Separately, the hand wringing is absurd. With a solid passive understanding of the language, active learning is much easier later -- whether of the parents' language or any other -- because the brain is physically prepared for multiple languages in a way that is more primal than when a second language is learnt formally after one can read. I read up on the subject because the trailing daughters spent their first years abroad, and I was concerned about language acquisition issues.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-07-23 07:54  

#5  Do you have any reason to believe it doesn't work as well on Islamonutz? We don't seem to have near the problem the Brits do, though we might if we had the same proportion of Islamonutz as the Brits do. Nonetheless, we do a better job of integrating immigrants, unless they are ghettoized, and sometimes in spite of it.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-07-23 07:17  

#4  Heh. Resistance is futile(tm). As long as we avoid getting swamped.

Too bad it dosn't work as well on islamonutz.
Posted by: N Guard   2007-07-23 06:03  

#3  The article reports this as a bad thing? WTF?
Posted by: gromky   2007-07-23 02:07  

#2  My hands are now chapped from all the wringing.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-07-23 00:32  

#1  Important note: the ability of their children to speak English is directly proportional to the children's later financial and social success. Fully integrated children of Mexicans tend to rise very quickly up the social and economic ladder. However, those that do not integrate tend to both ghettoize and economically stagnate.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2007-07-23 00:26  

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