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Israeli army weighs 'complete' Gaza pullout
2007-09-21
oh please please please please please please please please please please pleaseplease please please please please please please . . .
A day after the cabinet defined the Gaza Strip as "hostile territory," The Jerusalem Post learned Thursday that the IDF is working on a proposal that calls for a "complete disengagement" from the Gaza Strip - involving the closure of all border crossings with Israel and the transfer of all responsibility over the Palestinian territory to Egypt.
lock the gate, throw away the key, have a beer . . . and lob missles back on a tit for tat basis.
Helizaps are more precise ...
The proposal, defense officials said, was recently raised by Deputy Chief of General Staff Maj.-Gen. Moshe Kaplinsky during a series of meetings within the defense establishment.

While Israel removed its military positions and settlements from the Gaza Strip in 2005, it has maintained a certain level of responsibility for the Palestinian population there, including coordinating the Gaza-based activities of humanitarian organizations such as UNRWA, the World Bank and the International Committee of the Red Cross.
let 'em coordinate on their own. better yet, let 'em pound salt.
According to the proposal, which officials stressed was in its early stages, Israel would completely disconnect from Gaza by closing off the Erez, Karni, Sufa and Kerem Shalom crossings and instead directing humanitarian organizations to work with Egypt.
let's hope they treat Egypt exactly as they treated Israel
"The idea is to finalize what was started with the 2005 'disengagement,'" explained a senior defense official. "No matter how much we try and what we do, the humanitarian organizations consistently blame us for the humanitarian situation in Gaza. This way they will no longer have a case against us, since we won't be involved."
a blinding flash of the obvious
The official said the proposal was being pushed strongly by Kaplinsky, who has said in a number of meetings that there is no longer a need for Israel to take responsibility for what happens in the Strip.
there hasn't been for some time
The parallel being suggested is southern Lebanon, which is home to Hizbullah guerrillas and their weapons but, following Israel's withdrawal from its security zone there to the international border in 2000, is plainly no longer under Israel's responsibility.

Under the proposal, it is possible that the Palestinians would be able to rebuild the Dahiniye Airport and construct a naval port.
It's possible I'll win a date with Angie Harmon, too ...
"The terrorist groups are anyhow smuggling explosives, missiles and weapons into Gaza through tunnels along the border with Egypt," an official said. "If they get an airport or a naval port, it will not make such a big difference."
and if they decide to use them, retaliation is much easier
They can bring much more through a naval port. Think Nork freighters direct from Iran ...
A spokeswoman for Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Thursday night that he had not seen the proposal. Spokeswoman Miri Eisin said she had no comment about whether he was likely to support it. In any case, before the plan could be implemented, she said, "it would have to be brought to the full cabinet" for a vote.

Meanwhile Thursday, defense officials met to discuss the practical implications of the security cabinet's decision on Wednesday to designate Gaza as hostile territory, paving the way to curbing Israel's provision of electricity, fuel and other supplies to the Strip.
just disengage completely. give 'em all the electricity, fuel and water they want. and nothing else. give the responsibility for humanitarian aid to people they're not trying to kill every day.
Let them buy fuel and make their own electricity. Might teach them responsibility. Oh cheez, what am I saying ...
Under the cabinet decision, Defense Minister Ehud Barak is now authorized to impose humanitarian sanctions following Kassam attacks against Israel.

One equation being considered is that every time one of the Gaza crossings is shelled or attacked, it will be shut down for several days. "Until now, we risked out lives to keep the crossings open," an official from the Defense Ministry explained. "From now on, if they attack we will just close the crossing for several days."
how about for several eons instead?
Twice the lifespan of Ismail Haniya should do it ...
Israel plans to begin immediately restricting the amount of fuel it allows to enter the Strip. Diesel will be allowed in to fuel ambulances, sewage pumps, generators and garbage trucks, but gasoline will be restricted.

Some defense officials voiced opposition on Thursday to the cabinet decision. The coordinator of government activities in the territories, Maj.-Gen. Yosef Mishlav, voiced staunch objection to the plan, the Post has learned, apparently for not being sufficiently decisive, and even appeared before the security cabinet after asking Barak for special permission.

Mishlav told the ministers that the cuts to electricity and fuel supplies would be ineffective in stopping Hamas's rocket attacks. He added that by not cutting off supplies altogether, Israel was still allowing Hamas to govern - albeit under slightly greater economic pressure. Mishlav said the only way to really pressure Hamas was to completely cut off supplies and allow a humanitarian crisis to develop. He did not say, however, that he favored this course of action.
Posted by:PlanetDan

#7  "No matter how much we try and what we do, the humanitarian organizations consistently blame us for the humanitarian situation in Gaza. This way they will no longer have a case against us, since we won't be involved."

How nice to see Israel finally catching on to the no-win game being played by these so-called "humanitarian" agencies that are involved in this farce. Every single kindness is turned back against them while the slightest error is blatted about as the latest atrocity. Enough of this bullshit.

It will be more than a little entertaining to watch these "humanitarian" organization tiptoe through the minefield of administering directly to Palestinian goons and thugs. Let them finally get a taste of just how thankless a task it is to deal with these gangsters. More than anything, it's long past tea to begin exposing the lopsided and anti-Semitic politics of these terrorism-facilitating "human rights" groups. Not a single one of them has a speck of moral authority until they make a definite stand against the human rights abuses of shari'a law.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-09-21 14:36  

#6  They can bring much more through a naval port. Think Nork freighters direct from Iran ...

Eventually, it would be tough navigating thru all the sunken Nork hulks. Argh, she be a treacherous sea, the Med; full of unseen dangers.
Posted by: SteveS   2007-09-21 14:06  

#5  What Old Patriot said.

Unfortunately, demented people are running our governments and so we continue to feed the mouths that bite us.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-09-21 14:06  

#4  . . . lob missles back on a tit for tat basis

Helizaps are more precise ...

and precision is important for what reason, again? There's something much more satisfying giving back equally.

Frankly, I think precision targeting has allowed palis to have their cake and eat it too: they voted for Hamas and know they're not going to be killed for it. If they are killed it's only because they were being used as human shields.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2007-09-21 13:57  

#3  Egypt had responsibility for Gaza from 1948 until 1967. They even issued special postage stamps for "Palestine". Jordan had a similar arrangement for the West Bank. Frankly, both territories should be a part of Israel, and all the Arabs in Gaza either forced into Egypt or the sea, while those in the West Bank being forced into Jordan, Syria, or Saudi Arabia. That includes all the muslims in Israel. Any attack against Israel should be responded to with disproportionate force - say a tac nuke or two. After about a dozen such "reminders", Israel's neighbors should begin to get the message - Israel is not to be messed with.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-09-21 13:24  

#2  Go ahead and let Iran support them. if they play nice ( not likely) then all is happy in Who-ville, if not obiterate them. think of the two-fers!
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2007-09-21 13:10  

#1  The flaw in this is the assumption that Egypt would be willing to assume responsibility for Gaza. Why would any country other than Iran assume responsibility for Gaza?
Posted by: RWV   2007-09-21 12:07  

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