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Afghanistan
6 U.S. troops die in Afghan ambush
2007-11-10
Six American forces serving under NATO's International Security Assistance Force were killed in an insurgent ambush while patrolling in eastern Afghanistan, a NATO spokesman told CNN on Saturday. In addition, eight other NATO soldiers were wounded. It was not immediately clear whether those were Americans.

The U.S. troops were on joint-foot patrol with Afghan National Army soldiers -- three of whom were killed and 11 who were wounded, NATO said. The combined forces came under fire from small arms and rocket-propelled grenades during the "ambush."

In response, NATO said forces fired back with small-arms, machine guns, mortars, artillery and close-air support. At least one insurgent was killed in the clashes.

Violence in Afghanistan this year is the deadliest for U.S. troops since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion. So far this year 100 U.S. military personnel have died due mainly to insurgency-related violence, according to a CNN count based on figures from the U.S.-led NATO and Coalition.
Posted by:john frum

#9  Or one or more of the local officials, mhw, or the man at the falafel stall outside the meeting (or whatever the local equivalent is -- I'm sure it isn't falafels), or one of the women had a cousin whose husband's brother is with the bad guys...
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-11-10 20:24  

#8  damn
probably there was a double agent in the Afghan forces
Posted by: mhw   2007-11-10 18:45  

#7  Agreed, Frank. I understood Mitch's comment ... the initial report was too sketchy to understand what exactly happened. And being CNN, they weren't particularly interested in accurate reporting.

He found the AFP report that added more details and made more sense... it was a nation-building team that got ambushed after a meeting with the locals, not a combat patrol that got overpowered.

May G-d bless those Troops and their families. It will be a bleak Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-11-10 17:48  

#6  easy now..... Mitch H is absolutely not a troll/racist/bigot/bigamist/puppie blender - he was complaining about the lack of clear info, nothing else, IMHO....
Posted by: Frank G   2007-11-10 17:41  

#5  You would have preferred Afghan women being stoned, banned from hospitals, treated like cattle and afgahn children dying like flies (infant mortality is in freefall and that is thanks to GW Bush not to you).

You are not merely a moron, you are morally repellant. Racist too.
Posted by: JFM   2007-11-10 17:20  

#4  This report sucks rocks


Let's reason together and see if we can figure out why this report sucks rocks.

COULD IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE DAMN WAR MORON?

How does I make MORON look bigger?
Posted by: Thomas Woof   2007-11-10 13:16  

#3  My best guess is that it was a PRT meeting and that the group may not have been all military. Two platoons of troops sounds wonky somehow.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2007-11-10 12:25  

#2  Why is ambush in quotes in the article? Was it not an ambush?

How big of a patrol was this? The casualties are the better part of a platoon - was this a company-size maneuver, or was a platoon-strength patrol effectively wiped out? How did the wounded get out of the trap if it was the latter? Was there a QRF? Air support? Are the high casualties due to a lack of air support? Were they too far away from their supports to be reinforced in time?

This report sucks rocks. Something stinks, but it's so bare bones that I can't tell if it's the reporting or something is terribly bent with the NATO force wherever the hell this happened - the article doesn't even get more detailed than "eastern Afghanistan". I'm going to presume that this isn't the Panshir Valley or someplace relatively friendly. Were did this happen?

Nggh!

OK, here's the AFP version. Much better. This was *not* a combat patrol, but rather a group coming back from a meeting with local officials. It was a true ambush of an unprepared group, not a combat element caught off guard. Nuristan, huh? The locals aren't Pashtuns, and the politics of the region are kind of complicated, from what I just read. It might not have even been the Taliban - the Nuristanis are real hillbillies.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2007-11-10 11:32  

#1  And its a quagmire here too.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-11-10 08:31  

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