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India-Pakistan
While Pak Burns Perv Releases Top Talib Murders Into The Wind
2007-11-11
President Pervez Musharraf's newly declared state of emergency, his government has just let more than two dozen militant Islamists out of jail. Protesters might be even angrier if Musharraf disclosed the names of some of those freed militants. Taliban sources tell NEWSWEAK that the top man on the list was Mullah Obaidullah Akhund—the highest-ranking Taliban official ever captured by the Pakistanis. As one of Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar's closest confidants and his defense minister until the post 9-11 invasion of Afghanistan, Obaidullah was No. 3 in the group's hierarchy and a member of its ruling 10-man shura (council).

His arrest on Feb. 26 seems to have been anything but a coincidence. That was the very day that Vice President Dick Cheney arrived in Islamabad on an unannounced visit to demand a crackdown on Taliban operations in Pakistan. Washington was out of patience with Taliban commanders not only roaming free in Pakistan's tribal lands but even being allowed to hide in plain sight in cities like Quetta--the provincial capital near the Afghan border where Obaidullah was captured, along with the Taliban's senior Zabul province commander, Amir Khan Haqqani and another Mullah Omar confidant, Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Osmani.

Obaidullah, Haqqani, Osmani and others might still be in jail if not for a Pakistani military convoy that encountered a rockslide on a highway in South Waziristan in late August. The vehicles were quickly surrounded by fighters loyal to the notorious Pakistani tribal warlord Baitullah Mehsud, a veteran Taliban supporter who operates training camps for suicide bombers in his territory. More than 250 government troops were in the convoy, and they all surrendered without a shot being fired. Mehsud later beheaded several of his captives before Musharraf agreed to a prisoner swap.
Jumpin' Jimminy Crickical! it all sounds soo Coincedinkyical! like it 'twer prearrainged or sumthin?
more Perv and ISI funnies at the linky
Posted by:Red Dawg

#15  THATS IT!! Time to NUKE Prickistan!
Posted by: Chinesing Dark Lord of the Geats3511   2007-11-11 22:01  

#14  We'll see yer scraggly beards 'n' turbans and raise yeh 4 Ohio Class boats...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2007-11-11 21:48  

#13  I imagine India could do a job on Pakistan if they ever decided to go on the offensive. The problem is that China might take advantage of the situation.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-11-11 21:32  

#12  I have a deep abiding faith that we will win.

The "West" will win out, including of course India, Australia, Japan etc.

No matter how fucked some our fellow citizens and Politicians are, We will be Victorious! Even if PakLand melts down and the Natives go ape-shit, we shall persevere!

~:) /my sermon..
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-11-11 19:48  

#11  Try this Minister Zen, consider first when you preach to a Rantburger you're sermonizing to a member of the choir.

To our ever lasting distress Give us a break with the Fire and Brimstone..

Because we've been repeatedly upchucked upon by you, The Preach projecting Tsunamis of Looming Calamities, wave upon wave of Distressing Dire and Woe Betide Us Warnings!

ZEN and his COMMING ATTRACTIONS:

THE MUSLIM GIANTGANTICA (100 yards tall all muslim, guaranteed) and his BIZZILION UMMAH MARCH.

be afraid Zen... We Aren't.
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-11-11 19:39  

#10  If enough of ISI Hard core die, quit or change she will be able to choke off the support for the fascist Islamist and Talibunnies and we can all watch them wither away...over time like we did al-Qaeda these last few months in Iraq..

No real arguments here, Red Dawg. Your's is also a major "if". Who's to do all this here killin' of the ISI? It doesn't seem like anyone within Pakistan's borders has the determination, spine or sufficient lack of fear-dependence-involvement (pick one) with these vermin. I'm certainly willing to take a chance with Bhutto at the helm but her life expectancy is likely to be shorter than that of an unlocked Corvette in Compton.

Iraq is somewhat stabilized precisely because it is we who have gone in and done the killing. I don't see how anything like that is going to happen inside Pakistan unless—once again—we go in and do a whole messa atritting on the ISI. If we don't, at some point India will probably be obliged to do it just because of the nusiance factor.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-11 18:43  

#9  This is just the beginning of the Paki meltdown. I expect them to spiral directly into full war with India. Pakistan is the source of all the warring, jihad or otherwise along their borders and in India and Afghanistan too. It's an erupting quagmire.
By the way, I heard Bush say today that he cares about the people of Pakistan. I know this is true. He cares about the people of Mexico too.
Posted by: wxjames   2007-11-11 18:13  

#8  My friend Venkat told me in early 2002. "The US needs to take out Musharraf if they want to hit the terrorists".

I am starting to think my friend with the heavy accent was right.

By the way he told me the US should hit Al Jazerra as well. Very wise man that Venkat.
Posted by: airandee   2007-11-11 17:58  

#7  George Bush. Much like that undead zombie, the Road Map for Palestinian statehood, far too much political capital has been invested in Pakistan for anyone in this administration to slowly back away from it. While our logistical dependence upon Islamabad remains a given, contingencies for this eventuality should have been worked out in the last year or two. Long ago, a multinational force should have already crushed, dismantled and scattered Pakistan to the four corners.

PakLand population: 164,741,924 (July 2007 est.)

heh Zen have you visualized that logistics train back into to Pak's unique geography with a huge international Army sounds easy eh... NOT.

Like Iraq, a less sinister Pakland could arise, in fact will arise [IMHO] by changing its current path to a possible nuclear holocaust and/or a fascist Islamist State.

We've more than just one shot in Pakland.

for instance, here's one, if we assume that the majority of Pak voters eventually elect Butto, and her proven companion Lady Luck helps her survive I believe she is wise enough to know how to maneuver her power visa-vi the ISI, be adroit with the old boys guard and persuade enough of them to begin dismantling the Hard Core Islamists within their own ranks.

If enough of ISI Hard core die, quit or change she will be able to choke off the support for the fascist Islamist and Talibunnies and we can all watch them wither away...over time like we did al-Qaeda these last few months in Iraq..

there are other fair to middling *scenarios also..

Heh maybe president Bush ain't so dumb today. He's a Veteran btw.



/*9.99 Quake..
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-11-11 17:28  

#6  Who is worse: Mushy or Karzai? We should charge both with Fraud.
Posted by: McZoid   2007-11-11 16:32  

#5  Does anyone believe him or in his ability to move Pakistan forward, if so who is this mysterious person or group?

That "mysterious person" would seem to be George Bush. Much like that undead zombie, the Road Map for Palestinian statehood, far too much political capital has been invested in Pakistan for anyone in this administration to slowly back away from it. While our logistical dependence upon Islamabad remains a given, contingencies for this eventuality should have been worked out in the last year or two. Long ago, a multinational force should have already crushed, dismantled and scattered Pakistan to the four corners. Their proliferation of nuclear technology to Iran wholly justifies this all by itself.
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-11 15:04  

#4  #1 And exactly how is this supposed to inspire confidence that Musharraf really is an honest participant in the fight against global terrorism?

at this juncture who has any confidence in Perv? I can't think of any group other than his small and shrinking court of flunkies.

Does anyone believe him or in his ability to move Pakistan forward, if so who is this mysterious person or group?
Posted by: Red Dawg   2007-11-11 14:48  

#3  "Mehsud finally released the last 211 surviving hostages on Nov. 4, the day after Musharraf declared a state of emergency and began rounding up dissidents in the name of confronting 'extremism and terrorism.' In exchange for the freed troops, the tribal warlord got the men he wanted out of jail."
It appears Prev traded at an exchange rate of 1 terrorist for each 8 or 9 soldiers. I'm not sure he got a good deal on that, but I guess 211 more beheadings would be bad press too.

Posted by: Darrell   2007-11-11 14:27  

#2  Mushy is coming out of the closet, I think.
Posted by: lotp   2007-11-11 14:18  

#1  And exactly how is this supposed to inspire confidence that Musharraf really is an honest participant in the fight against global terrorism?
Posted by: Zenster   2007-11-11 14:17  

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