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Home Front: Politix
Pelosi won't budge on troop pullback dates in war funding bill
2007-12-01
A top Democrat who had hinted that a compromise on war funding was possible appeared to back away from the idea Friday as the Democratic congressional leadership refused to consider it. Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the Democrats will not try to pass additional war funding this year.

On Thursday, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pennsylvania, said he and the White House Iraq coordinator Gen. Douglas Lute discussed a compromise in which Congress would provide additional funds for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan if the administration accepted readiness standards for the troops sent into battle and a ban on the use of torture. The Democrats' part of the compromise would be to extend the time period in which they would demand that troops be withdrawn from Iraq, Murtha said.

But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi showed no sign of accepting such a compromise and said the Democratic Congress would not pass a war funding bill other than the one that had already passed the House. "We have provided every penny that is currently necessary to fund Defense Department operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and around the world," Pelosi said. "It is President Bush and his Republican allies in the Senate who are preventing extra funds from reaching our troops."
Posted by:Fred

#17  Zenster, we told you this morning: TAKE A BREAK.
Posted by: Dave D.   2007-12-01 18:27  

#16  [Zenster has been pooplisted.]
Posted by: Zenster   2007-12-01 18:18  

#15  Above this article is another titled Democrats: Iraq fades as political issue... -Quagmire drying up

If the Donks want to bury the issue before the next election, taking this political tack will insure its right in front of the voters comes November. Brilliant. Don't stop an enemy when they're destroying themselves. Fight it Nancy, fight it. Make it as public as possible. Don't allow it to be moved out of the public spotlight.

By the way, where are all the department budgets?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-12-01 15:58  

#14  I thinks she's scared of her own constituents. They occupied her offices and set up camp outside her home when she tried to act semi-sane.

She doesn't dare fund the troops or they'll attack her for sure.

The Dems really blew it when they made her speaker.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2007-12-01 15:27  

#13  I'm with the above poster that says let her choke on it until she caves. This only works if W gets on the PrimeTime TeeVee and tells America that the military is running out of money.

The average America has no idea that this is going on. None.
Posted by: Mike N.   2007-12-01 13:56  

#12  Nancy Peeloosely is going to single-handedly destroy the demodonk party for 20 years with this sh$$. If she doesn't know it, someone with some clout should point it out to her. The American people don't like to retreat, and don't like to lose. Nancy is single-handedly trying to force both options upon the United States. She needs to be slapped upside the head with a cluebat - possibly made out of the Flatirons up near Boulder.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-12-01 13:25  

#11  She is 3rd in line of succession to the presidency (shudder). All Americans are her constituency for the moment, though she cares little for them.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2007-12-01 13:21  

#10  Pelosi's district 8.


Posted by: 3dc   2007-12-01 13:03  

#9  Riding for a fall?
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2007-12-01 12:25  

#8  Too bad we can't declare San Francisco an open city no longer under American protection.
Posted by: ed   2007-12-01 10:34  

#7  I think she is just stupid. This will just benefit the Republicans in the next elections. Maybe she's crazy. Not sure it makes much difference.
Posted by: Whomong Guelph4611   2007-12-01 10:27  

#6  perhaps she's trying to save media ink/space by dropping that second digit from her public approval opinion poll numbers?
Posted by: Frank G on the road   2007-12-01 09:07  

#5  You can't contact Queen Nancy via E-Mail unless you live in her district. The Speaker's website (respect/salute the rank, not the person)says that us regular citizens may contact her about other things - ya know, like national interest things - at: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov

Go on, you'll feel beeter if you do!
Posted by: Bobby   2007-12-01 06:29  

#4  Politics, fa@rkn politicians. Perhaps nancy is being set up as a fall. That is, "(Speaker of the House elected by the majority party) Palosi is soo far out there man, we gotta look center."

I have not heard the torture allusion, but torture to me requires an 'atmosphere'. That is an environment completely controlled by the interrigator. Anything less gets in the area of interrogation as for degrees of - waterboarding are you kidding, try snorkling in high waves or horseback riding in boxers.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2007-12-01 03:53  

#3  Hey, she's doing it for the children. I don't know how it benefits the children, but I'm sure she has something in mind.

I don't see why W et al should make any sort of deal whatsoever. Let her choke on it until she caves. She must honestly think that the majority of her supporters are from the lunatic fringe because she sticks to them like glue. Maybe they are, I don't know.

I heard that part of the CNN interview with Wolf Blitzer where Brave Sir Murtha was backpedaling as hard as he could on his "I think the surge is working" statement. Part of it included whining about how the looming cuts were going to hurt civilian contractors etc (as if he cared). He of course blamed Republicans for all of this. In his mind it had nothing to do with the Dems obstructionism on the budget. He seems committed to the idea that the only logical response would be to bring the troops home. Good to hear he fears the idea of the civilian impact. At least he has that much right, whatever his F'ed up response to it is.

This is money that won't be circulated in the economy and taxed and retaxed. That's not going to help, either.

And what is this "ban on the use of torture" symbolism/crap? Doesn't that imply the US is torturing terrorists? So fuc&ing what? Besides, I heard the US isn't doing that anyway. I wouldn't give him any sort of rhetorical victory here either or it will just haunt the administration down the road. It's also obviously something the Trunks can toss out and claim some sort of victory even if they go for this "standards of readiness" crap - which would suggest that they are being sent over there green. I wouldn't take that bait, either, but I'd make sure they were trained sufficiently before sending them into the conflict unsupervised, which I'll bet is already being properly managed given there are no liberal-skewed statistics of how new troops are dying in obscene numbers.

I'd say that passing the funding is a given; the unknown is how much damage the Dems are willing to sustain. Considering their blind thirst for power, it can't be that much that the Republicans ought to panic about it.

Pelosi said "It is President Bush and his Republican allies in the Senate who are preventing extra funds from reaching our troops."

Details on that, Nancy? Or do liberals not need such inconveniences as details?
Posted by: gorb   2007-12-01 02:39  

#2  This falls into 'I didn't will it so it is not happening' category. A leader lacking - she is supposed to be the leader of the House of Representatives of the USA 2007-2008. Instead she is being selfish. What's the matter, worried about St. Cindy and your district?

This tells me 2 things about the democrats:1)there is not/cannot be a leader with true conviction that they work 'for the people'. 2)according to democrats partisan politics overrides their duty.

Embarrassing. Makes this independent want to change its mind.

and said the Democratic Congress would not pass a war funding bill other than the one that had already passed the House.
Speaking for the Senate too, eh?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2007-12-01 02:35  

#1  She will remain a rude b--ch until the day she dies.
Posted by: 3dc   2007-12-01 00:48  

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