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Olde Tyme Religion
Muslim Scholars Debate Apostates in Islam
2007-12-04
Excerpt. Tough crowd...
Al-Sweidan: Before the break, I asked our audience for their views on this important issue. Does a Muslim have the liberty or the right to change his religion? The results are as follows: 24% said: "Yes, he has the right to change his religion." 76% of the people said: "No." Let's hear some opinions and then I will return to out guests.

Audience member: Sir, if you become an apostate, your punishment is death. There is a great problem that most of us, 70% of us, are Muslims because they were born to Muslim fathers and mothers. Before a person converts to Islam, he has the liberty to choose, but remember that if you want to convert from Islam, you will be punished by death. So you have the liberty to choose, but on the condition...

Al-Sweidan: That's not liberty.

Audience member: It has conditions...

Al-Sweidan: What you are saying is: You have the right to become an apostate, but I will kill you.

Audience member: That's right. I won't tell him not to.

Al-Sweidan: What can be worse than being killed?

Audience member: That's why he will not become an apostate.
Posted by:tu3031

#6  Can we stop calling muzzie idiots who have only read the koran scholars? Scholars doesn't seem right.
Posted by: jds   2007-12-04 19:18  

#5  The best (most illuminating) part is here:

"Gamal 'Allam: Islam is the only religion that begins with the imperative "Read." It is the only reasonable and convincing religion.

Al-Sweidan: But what if a person is not convinced?

Gamal 'Allam: Then there is something wrong in his head.

Al-Sweidan: That's what you think, but isn't he entitled to have something wrong in his head?

Gamal 'Allam: Anybody who is insane should go to a mental asylum, or else if he is insane, his head should be removed so that it does not contaminate the heads of others."

As yes... freedom, Islamic style
Posted by: Fod   2007-12-04 18:18  

#4  Soon I expect Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg to agree that Christians too will kill you for converting away from their religion. Once you've decided that all these religions are pretty much the same thing, there's no reason to notice even the most glaring differences.
Posted by: Baba Tutu   2007-12-04 17:37  

#3  Sounds like the mafia or some street gang.

When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way
From your first cigarette to your last dyin' day.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2007-12-04 15:39  

#2  When I read this article I thought to myself: Hey, this is cool...24% of the muzzie audience indicated were saying "yeah, sure...you can convert away from islam...yeah,sure... you have the right to convert away from islam. No problem."

The other 76% were clearly saying...No, you don't have the right to convert away from islam.

Then I started to read between the lines:

24% say you have the "right/liberty" to convert away from islam (!!!). 76% say you do not.

Here's the problem: I'm thinking, however, 100% believe -in either case- the penalty is still the same: Death. Which just happens to be the same conclusion drawn by ALL four schools of islamic jurisprudence. Sharia law is a real b*tch with no sense of humor.

Read the whole thing. If you think I'm wrong in my interpretation of the audience response let me know. I am not wrong, however, in noting that all four schools of islamic jurisprudence believe that death for apostacy is the proper penalty - at least for males. (Females get a pass on the death penalty for apostacy because they're stupid - I'm not making this up.)
Posted by: Mark Z   2007-12-04 14:40  

#1  What's to debate? Their devil book is perfectly clear on the subject.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-12-04 14:00  

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