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Hayden Says CIA Videotapes Destroyed
2007-12-07
WASHINGTON (AP) - The CIA videotaped its interrogations of two top terror suspects in 2002 and destroyed the tapes three years later out of fear they would leak to the public and compromise the identities of U.S. questioners, the director of the agency told employees Thursday.

The disclosure brought immediate condemnation from Capitol Hill and from a human rights group which charged the spy agency's action amounted to criminal destruction of evidence.
Of course.
CIA Director Michael Hayden said the CIA began taping the interrogations as an internal check on the program after President Bush authorized the use of harsh questioning methods. The methods included waterboarding, which simulates drowning, government officials said. "The Agency was determined that it proceed in accord with established legal and policy guidelines. So, on its own, CIA began to videotape interrogations," Hayden said in a written message to CIA employees, obtained by The Associated Press.

"Were they ever to leak, they would permit identification of your CIA colleagues who had served in the program, exposing them and their families to retaliation from al-Qaida"
The CIA decided to destroy the tapes in "the absence of any legal or internal reason to keep them," Hayden wrote. He said the tapes were destroyed only after it was determined "they were no longer of intelligence value and not relevant to any internal, legislative or judicial inquiries."

"The tapes posed a serious security risk," Hayden wrote. "Were they ever to leak, they would permit identification of your CIA colleagues who had served in the program, exposing them and their families to retaliation from al-Qaida and its sympathizers."
Now of course the 'human rights' activists don't care about that. Apparently the Dhimmicrats don't either.
Hayden said House and Senate intelligence committee leaders were informed of the existence of the tapes and the CIA's intention to destroy them. He also said the CIA's internal watchdog watched the tapes in 2003 and verified that the interrogation practices were legal.

Rep. Jane Harman of California, then the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee and one of only four members of Congress informed of the tapes' existence, said she objected to the destruction when informed of it in 2003. "I told the CIA that destroying videotapes of interrogations was a bad idea and urged them in writing not to do it," Harman said.
"Besides, whoever heard of the CIA leaking material that would be harmful to our country or our agents?" Harmon added.
While key lawmakers were briefed on the CIA's intention to destroy the tapes, they were not notified two years later when the spy agency went through with the plan. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said the committee only learned of the tapes' destruction in November 2006.

Jennifer Daskal, senior counsel with Human Rights Watch, said destroying the tapes was illegal. "Basically this is destruction of evidence," she said, calling Hayden's explanation that the tapes were destroyed to protect CIA identities "disingenuous."

The CIA only taped the interrogation of the first two terror suspects the agency held, one of whom was Abu Zubaydah. Zubaydah, under harsh questioning, told CIA interrogators about alleged 9/11 accomplice Ramzi Binalshibh, Bush said in 2006. Binalshibh was captured and interrogated and, with Zubaydah's information, led to the capture in 2003 of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the purported mastermind of the 9/11 attacks.

Hayden said a secondary reason for the taped interrogations was to have backup documentation of the information gathered. "The Agency soon determined that its documentary reporting was full and exacting, removing any need for tapes. Indeed, videotaping stopped in 2002," Hayden said.

Hayden's message was an attempt to get ahead of a New York Times story about the videotapes.
Ah-ha, light dawns in the east. The NYT was about to blow another confidential intelligence matter. Why am I not surprised?
"What matters here is that it was done in line with the law," Hayden said. "Over the course of its life, the Agency's interrogation program has been of great value to our country. It has helped disrupt terrorist operations and save lives. It was built on a solid foundation of legal review. It has been conducted with careful supervision. If the story of these tapes is told fairly, it will underscore those facts."

Beginning in 2003, attorneys for al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui began seeking videotapes of interrogations they believed might help them show their client wasn't a part of the 9/11 attacks. These requests heated up in 2005 as the defense slowly learned the identities of more detainees in U.S. custody.
More use of our legal system by our enemies to bring our country down.
In May 2005, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema ordered the government to disclose whether interrogations were recorded. The government objected to that order, and the judge modified it on Nov. 3, 2005, to ask for confirmation of whether the government "has video or audio tapes of these interrogations" and then named specific ones. Eleven days later, the government denied it had video or audio tapes of those specific interrogations.

Last month, the CIA admitted to Brinkema and a circuit judge that it had failed to hand over tapes of enemy combatant witnesses. Those interrogations were not part of the CIA's detention program and were not conducted or recorded by the agency, the agency said. "The CIA did not say to the court in its original filing that it had no terrorist tapes at all. It would be wrong to assert that," CIA spokesman George Little said.
Posted by:Steve White

#8  Compare wid REDDIT > BBC - CIA tapes were [wilfully?] destroyed in order to PROTECT certain elements from criminal/legal prosecution??? Also from REDDIT > Destroyed CIA tapes may had implicated PAKIS, SAUDIS in 9-11 attacks???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2007-12-07 22:02  

#7  aaditional idea:

we allknow how much more compelling and emotionally powerful visual images are. there is probably no way an average person can watch this kind of video and not feel some kind of sympathy for the jihadi. we need to prevent this kind of free propaganda footage from being leeked. even if totally legal and fully legit, the images are far too powerful a tool for our enemy if they would somehow end up in our living rooms.
Posted by: Abu do you love   2007-12-07 15:36  

#6  It's hard to tell for sure, but it looks to me like the CIA lawyers crafted the responses to Congress' demands and questions to be 'legal' but to avoid giving certain information. The didn't specifically lie, but as lawyers do, they avoided actually answering the questions.
This could just be lawyers being lawyers, but more likely the CIA felt there were things in those videotapes that they did not want seen outside the CIA offices. Multiple possibilities:
1) To protect operatives identities, as they claimed (remember Plame!)
2) To prevent leakage to the enemy of clearly legal interrogation techniques (Congress wouldn't leak, would they?)
3) To prevent problems over use of techniques which were regarded as legal at the time but which might now be looked at as illegal (my preferred guess.)
4) To prevent prosecution over use of techniques which were clearly illegal even then.
In any of these cases, it is against the nation's interest for the debate to be carried out in the New York Times. Spies do our necessary dirty work for us - we do need to have oversight, but it should not be politically motivated or vindictive.
Posted by: Glenmore   2007-12-07 13:02  

#5  No lifetime appointment for judges, and they are accountable to the people.

Also, I love how the CIA let congress know back in 2003 about the tapes and the intent to destroy them. And we are only hearing about it now during an ELECTION YEAR.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-12-07 10:18  

#4  Should've saved them. Used them as inflight movies on the Ghost Jet...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-12-07 10:05  

#3  In 1913 the Constitution was amended, the 17th, to have Senators directly elected by the people. It's well past time that the 'confirmation' process for SCOUTS move out the Senate which has politicized the process beyond recovery and move it to popular confirmation with explicit term limits. Since the judiciary has set itself up as an exclusive branch accessible only to members of the fraternity [which it originally was not], its time their branch start to exercise their power through direct consent. They want to play with power to stick their fingers into the daily lives of the nation's citizenry, then it is time for them to face the citizens directly.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-12-07 09:04  

#2  Brinkema. Another district court judge playing "Head of CIA".

We have got to end the tyrrany of the judicial branch.

No more "For Life" appointments anywhere. 4 years district, 8 years appeals, 16 years Supreme (Yes Stevens Im looking at YOU), can be renewed 5 times for District, 3 times appeals, once for Supreme.

This takes off the pressure from nomination at the lower courts by allowing "mistakes" to fade away, and judges to be judged by the executive (reappointment) and legislative (reappointment hearings) branches AFTER they begin serving.

Checks and balance y'all - term limits work for the Presidency, and are direly needed for the Congress (c.f. Ted Stevens R-Alaska, Ted Kennedy D-Mass), and we need them for Judges too.
Posted by: OldSpook   2007-12-07 08:51  

#1  "after President Bush authorized the use of harsh questioning methods." AP

An opinionated charge rather than impartial reporting.
Posted by: www   2007-12-07 05:39  

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