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Afghanistan
Afghan troops advance on Musa Qala
2007-12-10
A second NATO soldier was killed on Sunday as Afghan and international troops advanced on the southern town of Musa Qala, which the Taliban has controlled for the last 10 months, defence forces said. Some of the thousands of soldiers involved in the operation launched on Friday had come within two kilometres of the town, progressing through the night and closing in from the north, the Afghan defence force said.

An International Security Assistance Force soldier taking part in the campaign to take back the town was killed and another injured when their vehicle hit a mine in the area, ISAF said. The 38-nation alliance force did not give the nationality of the soldiers but a spokesman, Brigadier General Carlos Branco, said they were not British.

The force said on Sunday its soldiers were moving cautiously because of the threat of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) planted by the militants. The Afghan Defence Ministry said on Saturday a dozen Taliban and two civilians had also been killed.

The Taliban overran Musa Qala in early February, breaking a controversial deal, which led British forces to pull out on the request of elders, who said they would handle security after months of intense fighting.

Talks: British Defence Secretary Des Browne was in Kabul Sunday for talks with his Afghan counterpart, Abdul Rahman Wardak, about the push for Musa Qala, the Afghan ministry said. “The Helmand security situation and Musa Qala operation were on top of their discussions,” it said in a statement that quoted Browne as saying the Afghan army’s lead role in the operation was a sign of their capability. ISAF and its partner in a separate US-led coalition are helping build up the Afghan security forces.

British military spokesman in Helmand Lieutenant Colonel Richard Eaton said the operation would continue until the “door to Musa Qala is kicked in. And once the door is kicked in, the Afghan army will enter.”

The Afghan Defence Ministry meanwhile warned the rebels to lay down their arms “or face waves of attacks”. Two Taliban commanders in the area had been captured, it said. Another rebel commander, Abdul Satar, said the movement’s leaders had run away decamped beat feet left after the launch of the operation. “But our mujahideen (fighters) are resisting,” he said. Another Taliban leader has claimed there are up to 2,000 rebel fighters in the town, but this could not be independently verified.

Clashes also erupted early on Sunday outside the town, a resident who gave his name as Mahmood told AFP by telephone. “The Taliban resisted and there is no fighting at this time,” he said. In other fighting between the two sides, 10 Taliban were killed on Saturday in the Panjwayi area of Kandahar province, the Afghan Defence Ministry said on Sunday.
Posted by:Fred

#27  I wuzza referring to the Sakarov, Gerald, etc. nyms, not the Harry Reid satire, which I knew wuzzn't from a humorless twitch like Wazdan
Posted by: Frank G   2007-12-10 21:09  

#26  Ok, while I'm not gonna out our contributor above, suffice it to say that the IP was waay different. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2007-12-10 19:59  

#25  the "real wazdan"??? Given the Paki proclivity for counterfeit credentials and the numerous nyms this stupid idjit uses, is there a "real" "wazdan"?? Maybe a "Wazdan IP"
Posted by: Frank G   2007-12-10 19:53  

#24  Um, that was not the real wazdan with the Reid reference.

Agreed it's pretty damned funny tho. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2007-12-10 19:39  

#23  I come direct DNC headquarter in por kyber pass where we worship Harry Reid as our one true goddess. Praise be to Harry!

AOS.. SteveS: Gawd, I'm still laughing at that!

hey gotta admit, at least wazdan has a sense of humor!

I can see Harry Reid in his Maidenform Bra Cartwheeling thru the Kyber Pass stopping now and then to pass out medals and cash to Jamiat Ulema-I-Islam, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Jaish e-Mohammed.
Posted by: RD   2007-12-10 18:37  

#22  I come direct DNC headquarter in por kyber pass where we worship Harry Reid as our one true goddess. Praise be to Harry!

Gawd, I'm still laughing at that!

You know, people keep going on about how the Russians were driven out of Afghanistan. But they always fail to mention how the muj had Uncle Sugar and his bag of goodies on their side.
Posted by: SteveS   2007-12-10 17:15  

#21  Which means our troops need something to do. I can think of an oil-rich Arab nation that is filled with looney Islamofascists who need to be taught a lesson. Kinda close to where you are.

In fact, there may be a bunch of bored Iraqi troops who need something to do, too! :-)
Posted by: gorb   2007-12-10 16:05  

#20  Outside Islamabad.

in the line of fire? (I hope)
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2007-12-10 14:12  

#19  thanks Pappy.
Posted by: RD   2007-12-10 13:19  

#18  btw is Wazdan IP anyway near Riverside?

Outside Islamabad.
Posted by: Pappy   2007-12-10 13:14  

#17  We don't run away, wazdan. If we withdraw, it will only be to give us the freedom to nuke Afghanistan into a sea of glass.

There have been 6000+ people killed in Afghanistan in the last year or so - 4500 of those were Taliban. The majority of the rest were "civilians" killed by the taliban, or caught in the middle between the ISAF and the taliban. The ISAF and Afghanistan have lost fewer than 250 troops during the same time. Yeah, the taliban are winning, all right - winning the race to the grave.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2007-12-10 13:06  

#16  I come direct DNC headquarter in por kyber pass where we worship Harry Reid as our one true goddess. Praise be to Harry!
Posted by: wazdan   2007-12-10 12:57  

#15  so wasdan's IP is always Paki-Land...?
Posted by: RD   2007-12-10 12:47  

#14  Wazdan,

We achieved our goals in Afghanistan. That country no longer can be used as a base to attack America.

We're just about done with Iraq. By 2009 we'll be in training/oversight mode there.

Which means our troops need something to do. I can think of an oil-rich Arab nation that is filled with looney Islamofascists who need to be taught a lesson. Kinda close to where you are.

Real close, in fact.

Think about it.
Posted by: Steve White   2007-12-10 12:26  

#13  wazdan All Afghanistan is MUSA QILA

Yes wazdan in a way Afghanistan is Musa Qala because the Afghan Army will occupy it very soon.

I suggest that you watch and learn fool.

btw is Wazdan IP anyway near Riverside?
Posted by: RD   2007-12-10 12:21  

#12  OBL?

He's dead, Jim.

But even if he isn't, how much have the Taliban suffered for his sake? Is he worth it? Of course, if you belong to the death cult (that's islam, there, wazdan), he is worth it because he has obviously caused so much death. And it doesn't matter if most of the dead are Taliban. Death is death and it all makes allan happy.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2007-12-10 11:53  

#11  Wazdan,
Flaming idiot you are, you're partially correct. We really have not concentrated on Afghanland because the cesspool in Iraq has been target #1. The basic reality, of course, is that we ought to be targeting Pakland. That's where the real rot is blooming don't you agree ? Keep your eyes to the sky. Our patience with you lowlifes is razor thin.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2907   2007-12-10 11:42  

#10  Henry: "Give me a little peace, woman!"
Elanor: "Only a little? Why so modest? How about eternal peace, now there's a thought."
-- The Lion in Winter
Posted by: mojo   2007-12-10 10:38  

#9  The 38-nation alliance force

That number has got to drive the Hate America First liberals utterly mad.
Posted by: Icerigger   2007-12-10 09:08  

#8  How low have fallan Pashtoons for accapting to follow such cowards. Not fallen, low to begin with.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2007-12-10 08:49  

#7  It will take a little time for the Afghan army to develop seasoned NCOs and officers, and for a clear national (vs. tribal) affiliation to take hold.

They are making progress, from what I'm hearing. But it will take time.
Posted by: lotp   2007-12-10 08:12  

#6  If the Afghans are truly leading this it will be interesting to see whether it ends with a defeat or a deal. Given the target rich environment and the absence of enemy dead reports, which the Afghans and Brits have not been bashful about in the past, I am no an optimist on this.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-12-10 07:27  

#5  "All Afghanistan is MUSA QILA"

Heh! Does this idiot really behave what he is saying? Who does he think drove the Taliban out of Kabul in 2001? The Talibs are hated by at least 80% of Afghanis and would be finished if their ranks weren't being swelled by those Pashtoon donkeys in Pakistan. Incidentally, if the US ever gets hit by a WMD attack, it should be made clear that the automonous tribal regions of Pakistan will be among the first regions to be wiped from the map.
Posted by: Apostate   2007-12-10 07:01  

#4  Osama and Hykmatiar spent all the war against teh soviets in PAkistan while Masssod and Ismail Khan did all the work. How low have fallan Pashtoons for accapting to follow such cowards.
Posted by: JFM   2007-12-10 04:58  

#3  Ya know, wazdan, 6 years, not 7.

Now, OBL himself admitted his responsibility for 9/11. Tell me, if that were jooos who did it, why there were celebrations in muslim countries afterwrads? You can't have it both ways--to call these scum "magnificent 19" and then blame Mossad.

As for Talibunnies... You know what a ROE is? It is like fightinhg with one hand tied behind back. Despite that, and the fact that there is a fresh supply of Talibunnies from Pakiwaki on a regular basis, they are getting whacked all the time. Ask regular Afghanis--whether they prefer Taliban to be back in charge. Majority of people would say "No Way!"

Taliban are no mujahedeen, like Masood was, all they care about is power. Their power.
Posted by: twobyfour   2007-12-10 04:30  

#2  our Paki troll is facking stoopid
Posted by: Frank G   2007-12-10 04:18  

#1  6-7 years ago USA invaded Afghanistan.till now they are not able to have the mujahideens defeated,still not brought OSAMA to face justice as the USA said to bringing him to face (in reality fack blames of involvement) in 9/11. .killed,displaced,humiliated,disgraced,millions of Afghans who will face the USA to stop her from these atrocity and barbarism.All Afghanistan is MUSA QILA, better for USA to think & vacate the poor nation of Afghanistan.achieving goal is impossible for USA.Should learn lessons from USSR.
Posted by: wazdan   2007-12-10 02:30  

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