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India-Pakistan
Sindh Rangers given shoot-at-sight orders
2007-12-29
At least 33 people, including four policemen, have been killed since former prime minister Benazir Bhutto was murdered on Thursday in a gun and bomb attack after an election rally, AFP quoted officials as saying.

Around 16,000 troops were deployed in several parts of Sindh where Rangers have been ordered to shoot rioters at sight, officials said. In Karachi, rioters continued ransacking buildings despite shoot-at-sight orders given to Rangers against violent protesters, according to staff report. Five people were killed as 120 rioters were arrested. Six police installations, a post office, ten banks, one KFC restaurant, one Pizza Hut, two union council offices, and the Muttahida Qaumi MovementÂ’s election office were destroyed in Karachi. In the east of the city, more than 2,000 people attacked a police station and set it ablaze beside torching a factory in which six people were killed.

Pakistan Railways (PR) has suspended services between Lahore, Karachi and Quetta due to burning of trains, coaches and bridges, Railways sources said. Police and witnesses said the protesters had set fire to about 25 banks, 100 vehicles and foreign restaurants in Hyderabad.

Two people were killed in Lahore in the past two days. A mob set ablaze a fire brigade station. The Punjab government deployed 5,000 Rangers in 10 major cities, according to staff report. Gujranwala General Post Office was burnt after more than 1,000 people attacked it. Protesters in Rawalpindi also tried to vandalise former minister Sheikh Rashid AhmedÂ’s Lal Haveli, but the police dispersed them. Protesters in Balochistan set fire to a railway station, several banks, government vehicles and offices of the PML-Q, police told Reuters. In Multan, seven banks and eight petrol stations were damaged.
Posted by:Fred

#21  I can't see that it would make any difference, WG - except they would have been too busy to illegally steal self-defense weapons from law-abiding citizens.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2007-12-29 21:14  

#20  yeah, but then you'd have the NO police shooting at each other. Then what?
Posted by: Whomong Guelph4611   2007-12-29 17:14  

#19  Should have done that with the wankers in New Orleans
Posted by: Icerigger   2007-12-29 17:12  

#18  plz permit this addition,

Once our sons and daughters are fighting Our Nation should always be ready to use absolute brutal force in any conflict inorder to save their lives in the long run.

and in the long run of it, save the families [wives and children] of our enemies also.. [that damn liberalism again!]
Posted by: RD   2007-12-29 15:24  

#17  Eric you and the Colonel started something finger licking good! and thank you TW and EM for the delightful and extra crispy pun woid & links..

The fighting in the 1840's was at a time of British expansion in India. Nevertheless, there were those in Britain who doubted the wisdom of too rapid an advance, and in particular, the capture of the province of Sind, which was thought likely to lead to an overextension of lines of communication. Napier was therefore under express orders not to capture the territory. Once he discovered, however, how little resistance there was, he took the province with ease. ''Peccavi'' therefore meant both ''I have Sind,'' and ''I have sinned'' - perhaps a perfect pun.
~:)
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RBees know the following to be true today as well as yester year. In wars we are perpetually handcuffed by our own Liberal Ideals. Once our sons and daughters are fighting Our Nation should always be ready to use absolute brutal force in any conflict inorder to save their lives in the long run...but [I know 'the wag' will point out they are expendable to National Interest. ignore] ~:)

In WaZooStan for instance, Our Brave and Superb Warriors hump the wadis and rugged mountains, very skillfully surrounding and killing hundreds of very wily Talibs every month.

But in spite of our men and women's tremendous achievements the scale of their actions will NEVER keep up with WaZooStan's deep supply of Jihadis or be able to cut off the Talib's Cash Crop, IOW Never get her done.

General Sir Charles James Napier:
General Napier put down several insurgencies in India during his reign as Commander-in-Chief in India, and once said of his philosophy about how to do so effectively:

"The best way to quiet a country is a good thrashing, followed by great kindness afterwards. Even the wildest chaps are thus tamed"[3]
He also once said that "the human mind is never better disposed to gratitude and attachment than when softened by fear"[3]

An implementation of this theory would be after the Battle of Miani, where most of the Mirs surrendered. One leader held back and was told by Napier:

"Come here instantly. Come here at once and make your submission, or I will in a week tear you from the midst of your village and hang you""[3]
The reason he felt brutality was necessary for the proper conquest of rebellions may have been his opinion that "so perverse is mankind that every nationality prefers to misgoverned by its own people than to be well ruled by another"[3] Whatever the reason for his views on fighting insurgencies, the fact remains that he was one of Great Britain's most effective generals at doing this in India, often facing well-armed fighters
Posted by: RD   2007-12-29 15:14  

#16  A sailor might merit flogging as punishment, especially when even his user name qualifies.
Posted by: Odysseus   2007-12-29 13:50  

#15  Peccavi. A sailor might say I'm impressed.
Posted by: Seafarious   2007-12-29 11:35  

#14  A historic bilingual pun? How utterly wonderful! Are there any more of those?
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-12-29 11:18  

#13  Or Kentucky is Dar-Ul-Islam ?
Posted by: john frum   2007-12-29 10:10  

#12  They probably think Sanders is a colonel in the US Army.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2007-12-29 09:08  

#11  TW, it wasn't my pun. That's how General Charles Napier reported his conquest of Sind to the British East India Company in 1842.
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2007-12-29 08:54  

#10  Colonel Sanders Under Fiery Siege in Pakistan

KARACHI, Pakistan, June 3 2005- Four times since Pakistan allied itself with the United States campaign against terrorism, a KFC outlet here has been attacked. Each time, the owner, Rafiq Rangoonwala, dutifully cleaned up and reopened for business. This time, with six of his employees dead, he's not so sure.



May 2005


Aug 2003


may 2005


Nov 2005


June 2005
Posted by: john frum   2007-12-29 07:52  

#9  If you build it, they will come....

and burn it to the ground.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-12-29 07:31  

#8  Cr@p! Osmama's = Osama's
Posted by: Slinemble Jones4087   2007-12-29 06:57  

#7  The KFC is routinely burned down during protests...

Maybe they should rename it to Osmama's Mama's Home Fried Chicken, and put a picture up of a MBO. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Slinemble Jones4087   2007-12-29 06:56  

#6  Reports from Benazir's funeral mention a lot of anti-Punjabi sentiment. The PPP is one of the last links the Sindhis have with Pakistan. As it disintegrates, Sindhi separatist sentiments will also grow...
Posted by: john frum   2007-12-29 06:45  

#5  The KFC is routinely burned down during protests
Posted by: john frum   2007-12-29 06:43  

#4  I had to look that up. Shame on you, Eric, for a really good bilingual pun! :-D
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-12-29 06:31  

#3  There were -- until yesterday, at least -- one each KFC and Pizza Hut restaurants in Karachi? When did that happen, and why?
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-12-29 06:03  

#2  Peccavi.
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2007-12-29 02:16  

#1  Civil War?
Posted by: Gromort Trotsky5960   2007-12-29 00:32  

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