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Was Samuel Huntington right after all?
2008-01-04
By Fouad Ajami
Posted by:ryuge

#5  Good question about a civilization. So if something is uncivilized what should it be called? Did the Aztecs have a civilization or something else? I think the term, however imperfect, is what we're stuck with.

I think Huntington was right and the End of History guy was totally off. We are at war with Islam. Perhaps there are moderate eliminates that will stand up and reclaim their religion but until that happens they are the equivalent of the Vichy French.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-01-04 17:54  

#4  Show me where does it say in Huntington, "we see that the assumption leads to contradiction".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-01-04 15:56  

#3  G-man, sometimes you make the argument to knock it down. "I'll call Islam a 'civilization' so that I can demonstrate the following ..."
Posted by: Steve White   2008-01-04 15:39  

#2  Huntington was absolutely wrong: it's not a "War of Civilizations" cause Islam is not, never was, and (IMO) incapable of becoming a Civilization. At best it takes over other civilizations and runs them down---kinda like a virus taking over a cell.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-01-04 13:42  

#1  Unfortunately, Huntington was absolutely clairvoyant on this issue, as was Fallaci. Voices in the wilderness at the time. Wise men and women forseeing the future, which is now. So, based on the interval since they first spoke out, I would guess their visions are likely to be played out. They are being played out in Europe now. The population advantage is not yet on their side in US, but growing thanks to our stupidity in allowing their hordes free entry and the building of of unlimited mosks, their hdqtrs. and armories.

In an interesting twist, I attended one of Hill's campaign events in Iowa and hung around until she circled the ropes for handshakes and photos. When she finally got to me, I told her I was glad she came, then said I was very glad she was reconsidering globalization and free trade which were the biggest mistakes Bill made. The smile evaporated. She got dead serious and stared intently at me. Then I said, I just want to know one thing about you. She said what is that. I said I want to know if you'll have the guts to pull the big trigger on the Muslims when the time comes. She just about swallowed her tongue, then, in a lowered voice, said that's the biggest issue of our time, isn't it. Then someone tapped her shoulder and put a camera in her face and my time with her was done. I could tell she was eager to move on.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2907   2008-01-04 12:52  

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