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| Bali bomber feels 'beautiful' facing end |
| 2008-01-06 |
| ONE of the Bali bombers has written from his Indonesian jail that he feels so An Islamic militant's website is carrying the statement, fuelling fears the execution of the three bombers could ignite violence and arouse public sympathy for their cause in the world's biggest Muslim nation. The controversial Muslim cleric Mukhlas, a father of six who is also known as Ali Gufron, titled his jail writings The Right And Good Dreams. "Please read my writing," he urged Muslims in the internet statement, which he called his "last will and testament". "I would not trade how I am feeling now with anything else in the world," he said. Mukhlas claimed that Amrozi and the third bomber, Imam Samudra, are also writing books in their cells in a high-security jail on Nusakambangan Island, off Central Java. A former Islamic preacher in his late 40s, Mukhlas has showed no remorse for helping to organise the 2002 bombings in Bali's Kuta tourist district, which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians. Many of the victims were Muslims. He claimed on the internet he has sympathy "from all Muslims in the world" for what he did as well as the "blessings of God". Earlier, the three bombers said in a signed statement smuggled from jail that their deaths would make them heroes to God and that being "thrown out of the country" would be "an adventure" and "a sightseeing trip". "If we are executed, then our drops of blood that flow - with God's permission - will become light for those good Muslims and will become hell burning fire for those who are not Muslims and the hypocrites," they wrote. A countdown for the bombers to face a firing squad has begun after prosecutors visited the bombers on Wednesday and told them they had 30 days to lodge an application for clemency or the executions would be carried out. Lawyers for the men will seek final instructions when they go to the jail, expected within days. But the bombers have said repeatedly they will not seek clemency from the President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who would be highly unlikely to grant it for extremists who carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in Indonesia's history. Ms Jones, of the International Crisis Group, said fears of more terrorist attacks in Indonesia had fallen and the risk of more Bali-style bombings was low. "Most extremist groups here have concluded that indiscriminate attacks on civilians are counterproductive but they have not given up on local targets, even if their capacity to go after them is weak," she wrote in The Jakarta Post. The militant group Jemaah Islamiah "is trying to sterilise and consolidate its ranks" after the arrest of a number of its leaders this year, Ms Jones said. Other militant groups were "reaching out to disgruntled members of other organisations and new groups are emerging and recruiting members, particularly in Java". Ms Jones said the biggest danger to Indonesia "lies not in terrorism, separatism, election disputes or any external threat but in poorly managed communal tensions that have the potential to fray this country's social fabric". |
| Posted by:tipper |
| #14 Live or die, I'll make a million ---Eebus Kineebus, Firesign Theater |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2008-01-06 21:19 |
| #13 Some have premonitions about 2x4's scenario. Thjey can last a lifetime. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-01-06 20:10 |
| #12 WolfDog, the desciption is mine, if I can claim the ownership... because it was not me who set that up. There is a whole body of literature that somewhat corroborates the concepts I described, albeit due to difficulties of human language, it is always rather fuzzy and for he most part fragmented and colored by a framework of concepts of the individual's philosophy. I had an acident as a child, at the age of 9. The release mechanism was triggered, although I were not nearly as dead. You may say I were given a tour. It was, thankfully, free of religious overlays. Maybe because I grew up in atheist environment, I did not have any firm beliefs formed, yet. Raw deal. There is much more, in what transpires before and after the final judgement--in a causal, not in time flow sense, but thigs are really hard to translate from concepts that are rather alien to our way of sorting out the reality. The term final judgement used above is not a mis-label. One again, I am talking a causal relationship, not a timeline relationship. In that timeless domain, the concept of time is a mere direction of a thought. By all means, use the description as you see fit. After all, I was just an accidental observer, and despite that the experience was personal, its essence does not have an ownership. |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2008-01-06 19:59 |
| #11 If you tell yourself something over & over & over & over & over again, pretty soon your going to start believing it. This guy is dilusional, just like the rest of em'. Burn in hell you piece of crap |
| Posted by: Oztralian 2008-01-06 19:34 |
| #10 Heaven is the ultimate eternal celebration. Hell is eternally knowing they're having the ultimate eternal celebration -- and you aren't going. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2008-01-06 19:30 |
| #9 That is pretty ... intense, twobyfour. I'm gonna have to go over it a few times before it gels. Thoughtful.... |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2008-01-06 19:12 |
| #8 Two by four, your description of hell has to be one of the best I've read in many years. An honest question, is this treatise yours, or is it something you read or got from someone else. The reason for the question is I would like to use it in my 6th, 7th and 8th grade religion classes, and I want to be able to give credit where credit is due. Lemme' know wassup' iffen' you can. Pardon the slip into street dialect; sometimes my inner city student's speech and writing rubs off on me. |
| Posted by: WolfDog 2008-01-06 18:40 |
| #7 Ptah, you are making this up. No. No guts. Granted, some souls do tend to get stuck in the transposition of their baggage into the next world. But that is their construct, a facade that for some reason they are unable to let go of. They would be creating their own torment. It would have nothing to do with anyone else. You stand confronted with your maker, it's between you and your maker alone. You are your own judge--you are given means to do the job--a mirror that reflects your life, but with a superb clarity and with causal connections totally un-obscured. Many orders of magnitude real than your lifetime experiences. Once again, this is outside of time. If your actions have causal consequences beyond your lifetime, you'll get them too, served on a plater. Bad and good. I am sorry I can't present something more than a terribly reduced glimpse. But if you had some experience that allowed a peek into workings of this mechanism, you'd know that there is no room for vengeance, for that you would turn against yourself. The mechanism is perfect. |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2008-01-06 17:14 |
| #6 I thought it was other people? |
| Posted by: Thomas Woof 2008-01-06 17:10 |
| #5 There is an upside, and a downside, in twobyfour's hell (which he happened not to mention). The upside first: you will be periodically given the opportunity to tear into the guts of those who deceived you, starting with Mohammed, causing them great pain as you screech at them for misleading you. Please take a number. Now the downside. The people you deceived with be periodically given the opportunity to tear into your guts, causing you great pain as they screech at you for misleading them. Your former fans await you... |
| Posted by: Ptah 2008-01-06 15:19 |
| #4 "If we are executed, then our drops of blood that flow - with God's permission - will become light for those good Muslims and will become hell burning fire for those who are not Muslims and the hypocrites," I'd bet that the permision won't be given. By God, that is, not by Allan. he feels so "beautiful" on the eve of his execution that "no words can describe how good the feeling is" Enjoy, won't last. People don't understand what Hell is. It is not a place of consuming fire and of demons shredding your internal organs. You may think you have a body, but you don't. There are no internals, nor limbs. It's a junction outside space and time where your actions and intents would be replayed, with all the pain that your victims felt, unadulterated, raw, in full force. Outside time, it would feel like eternity. |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2008-01-06 14:26 |
| #3 Probably for the first time in his life. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2008-01-06 12:37 |
| #2 Mukhlas at his hanging: "I feel pretty! Oh so pretty! I feel pretty and witty and wiiiiiiise (ACKKKKK!)" |
| Posted by: WTF 2008-01-06 10:49 |
| #1 Hell, I'd even turn out for this guy's funeral. |
| Posted by: Jack is Back! 2008-01-06 09:13 |