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Only NKorean missile can 'wake up' Japan, says Tokyo governor
2008-02-17
Too bad he's an ignorant fanatic:
AoS note: put posts in the proper category. This is Japan, not Lurid Crime Tales.
Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara says the Japanese have lost their national pride, and only an outside provocation like a North Korean missile launch can shake them out of their complacency.

Ishihara, an unrepentant nationalist who heads the world's largest metropolis, has warned that Japan could become a US or Chinese colony if its people do not act to protect themselves. "Japanese no longer have the image of Japan as a national identity," the 75-year-old governor told AFP in an interview. "At the most, they think of their town, their family, their company. That is why Japanese are unable to change Japan on their own. If North Korea launches a missile, the Japanese would instantly change," he said.

North Korea in 1998 fired a missile over Japan's main island, although Ishihara has in the past belittled Pyongyang's ability to pose a serious military threat.

Ishihara, who was easily elected last year to a third term, is a darling of Japanese nationalists. His comments came amid growing tension over the presence of US troops in Japan, following the arrest in Okinawa of a US Marine on suspicion of raping a 14-year-old girl.
He has a point there but it is not our fault that the Americans who gang-raped a 12 year old Okinawan girl back in the 90s got just 6 years each from the disgracefully lenient Japanese court.
Ishihara, speaking before the Marine's arrest, said the Japanese were reluctant to try to change the US-Japan alliance even if they were "dissatisfied" with it. "At the same time they do not desire a Japan with a strong military either. Because of that odd contradictory sentiment, Japan is gradually becoming colonised," he said.

Japan has been officially pacifist since World War II and hosts more than 40,000 US troops on its soil under a security alliance. Okinawa, which was under US control from 1945 to 1972, is home to more than half the troops, and their presence causes frequent friction with local residents.

Ishihara, an independent who has been supported by the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, has said he recalls as a child disliking US forces stationed in Japan after World War II.
Not nearly as much as elderly Chinese and Filipinos recall disliking the Japanese occupiers.
He told AFP he hoped Japan would gain military strength and free itself from dependence on the United States, although it was not yet ready to do so. "It will become possible to no longer have the bases when Japan has sufficient armaments," he said.
This is why the Chinese do not want Americans to leave Japan. Long memories in that part of the world.
Ishihara delights in making provocative statements, and has used derogatory terms for Tokyo's Chinese and Korean residents.
Who no doubt don't like him either.
A well-regarded novelist, he stormed onto the political stage in 1989 by co-authoring "The Japan that Can Say No," which accused leaders of the then booming economy of weakness in their dealings with Washington.
Another consequence of long memory. Iwo Jima, A-bomb, Hiroshima, etc.
"I am the last person to say no," he said. "If we do unwise things, Japan might also become the sixth star on China's flag. China is extremely passionate about expanding its territory."

Ishihara has won support for his strong-arm policies, including forcing polluting vehicles out of Tokyo to improve air quality.
Having been to Tokyo, I think the fish markets would have been a better choice for expulsion.
He is now passionately championing Tokyo's bid to host the 2016 Summer Olympics, eight years after this year's Beijing Olympics seen as showcasing China's rise onto the world stage. Tokyo hosted the Olympics in 1964 in the first Games in Asia, which were seen as a symbol of Japan's dramatic rebirth from the devastation of World War II.

Despite his bid to woo support from other countries, Ishihara refuses to apologise for Japan's wartime aggression. "Has France apologised for its invasion of Indochina? Has the Netherlands for Indonesia?" he asked.
The lack of enslaved "comfort women" in French and Dutch garrisons may have something to do with this.
"Because Japan waged the Second World War, every colony controlled by white people became independent."
The people of the Phillipines (who routinely use the term "Japs" to this day, even in print), are singularly ungrateful for this "deliverance." He also neglects to mention what became of Japan's own colonies of Korea, Formosa, Southern Sakhalin, and Manchukuo after the war.
He said his view was reinforced when he met Gamel Abdel Nasser and Sukarno, the late leaders of Egypt and Indonesia. "They both told me: 'You know why we were both able to be independent? It's because of the war you Japanese made.'"
That's what he gets for taking the word of dictators. Egypt had been independent since 1922. Sukarno and the other Indonesian independence activists collaborated with the Japanese occupiers, from whom they could never have been independent without the allies' successful counter-offensive. The US grant of independence to the Phillipines had been passed in 1936, with the effective date of July 4, 1946 being scheduled in the original act and duly honored in spite of wartime disruptions.

Finally, I will re-consider my attitude toward Japanese nationalists when the last survivors of the Bataan Death March and the Rape of Nanking and the last former "comfort woman" have passed from this world, not a minute sooner.
Posted by:Atomic Conspiracy

#6  As said before on RB and the Net > iff the USA is truly concenred about a LT Chicom strategic threat to Amer + Asia-Pacific vv Communist China IRONY > A NUCLEARIZED ANTI-CHIN NORTH KOREA CAN WORK TO THE ADVANTAGE OF THE US-WEST. DOES THE USA = US INTEL-STATE BELIEVE THAT THE NK NORCOMS/KORCOMS ARE WILLING TO MOVE OR MADE TO MOVE TOWARDS DEMOCAPITALISM + [EURO-model] DEMOSOCIALISM???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-02-17 17:45  

#5  Here om Guam. a majority of Chin emigres I'd conversed with have no qualms about any US departure = redux from Japan. They broadly acknowledge that mainland China is BACKWARD + TECH INFERIOR/DEFICIENT TO BOTH THE USA + JAPAN. ITO CHINA NEEDS ALL THE TECH INNOVATION THEY CAN GET + SEE JAPAN AS A MAJOR SOURCE, ARE GENER WILING TO PUT WW2, etc IN THE PAST. OTOH, they view intensive = new Chin influence in Japan as good for relations and for China.

THE QUESTION THEN, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, IS WHETHER MAINSTREAM JAPANESE CAN ACCEPT [large numbers] CHINESE ENIGRES + CHIN-FOREIGN-OWNED MNC'S IN THEIR COUNTRY???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-02-17 17:36  

#4  Indeed, John - Gautama was Indian and Buddhism is one of the many gifts of India to the world. However IIUC Japan adopted it via China and in particular the Japanese found the Ch'an (Zen) and Pure Land schools amenable to their aesthetics and culture.
Posted by: lotp   2008-02-17 13:08  

#3  Note that Buddhism (as opposed to Chinese Buddhist culture) isn't Chinese. It originated in India, in present day Bihar state.
It was the Indian Emperor Ashoka who sent Buddhist missionaries to present day China, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Burma.

Posted by: john frum   2008-02-17 12:41  

#2  Why puzzling, 'moose?

Japanese culture is strongly oriented to cohesion based on a firm belief that Japan is singular and exceptional. Their language, while showing some relationship to Mongolian and also to some Polynesian, is quite different from other SE Asian tongues. Ignoring the Ainu, which they do quite throroughly, the Children of the Sun see themselves as racially distinct from their neighbors and while they absorbed elements of Chinese (Buddhism) and western (science & math) culture they pride themselves in integrating it into something native.

There are no large American colonies in Japan in good part because the Japanese do not encourage any such colony. Where would Americans fit in the very structured hierarchical system of relationships there?

And there are no large Japanese colonies here because anyone who wishes to advance in Japanese corporations or politics cannot afford to be away from Japan more than a certain limited time.

At least, those were my experiences doing business with Japanese firms a while ago. Nothing I've seen or read since suggests that has changed among the adults, although the cell phone thumb generation is a little (but not fundamentally) different, I think.
Posted by: lotp   2008-02-17 12:32  

#1  There is some inherent blockage between US and Japanese culture that limits or prevents intermingling, even though when it does happen it is hugely successful, as a rule. And this is puzzling.

Because of Japan's impressive economic strength, Japanese language studies should be widespread, especially in the western US, but it isn't. In Japan, while English is the language of business, it is seen as almost an amusement, a skill for the businessman to demonstrate his wit.

At the same time, the Japanese tourist will flock to Hawaii in huge numbers, but the furthest inland popular site Japanese will visit in large numbers in the US is the Grand Canyon. And it is just a "dash in, dash out" visit, then back to the coast.

And US tourists have the same problem visiting Japan. It is a strange and alien place to most Americans, even with US franchises scattered about. There are no large US colonies in Japan, as there are no large Japanese colonies in the US.

The few who live permanently in the other country integrate and disappear.

It is puzzling, indeed.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-02-17 10:22  

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