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Iraq
ISF Chases Hillah Guerillas Into Mosque
2008-03-27
HILLAH, Iraq – A combined Iraqi Police and Iraqi Army force stopped an organized attack in Hillah March 25.
"Jones?"
"Yessir?"
"Do you smell brimstone?"
"Is that what it smells like?"
A military-style force, armed with AK-47 assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, gathered in southern Hillah
"But why the smell of brimstone, sir?"
"Notice that bat wings on each of the Heroes of Islam™?"
"Ahah. I almost missed them."
"And the pointy parts sticking up under their turbans?"
"Ahah! The turbans hide the horns! Gotcha, sir!"
As they attacked Coalition forces and ISF with RPGs and small arms fire, Iraqi Army and Iraqi Police forces counterattacked.
This sounds very promising.
They secured major intersections and engaged the militants over the course of several hours.
"Delta-56! We are engaging demons at grid YX23459876!"
"Roger, Golf-51! In contact with Mahdi Army at YX23459876! You are authorized to use the exorcist!"
"Roger! Jones! bring up the padre!"
"He's on it, sir!"
"Back! Back, creatures of evil! Back to the pit from whence you came!"
"[Moooo! Gibber! Gnash!]"
They forced them to retreat to a mosque.
Then what happened? Are they still in the mosque?
“The ISF reacted quickly and effectively to maintain stability in al Hillah and to restore law and order,” said Lt. Col. Daryl McDowell, team chief for the MiTT. “They did a great job, quickly re-establishing security for the residents.”
Posted by:Glenmore

#14  Who are the "some folks" you mention? Your implication is that the comment is aimed at the community at Rantburg.

Some folks? Likely the same people I tend to disparage. The shoot-from-the-lip-I-don't-know-the-battleground-from-my-ass-but-wrap-'em-in-pigskin-and-drop-'em-from-5000-feet-then-nuke-'em-anyway armchair strategists.

Oh, and those who seem to not really know who the other commenters are...
Posted by: Pappy   2008-03-27 17:15  

#13  Starving them out, as liberalhawk suggests, isn't nearly as nice as shooting them while they posture at heroically defending the mosque they took hostage. Whiskey Mike, liberalhawk rather politely, in my opinion, disagreed with one of the standard positions taken here at Rantburg since Afghanistan was invaded in 2002... and gave his reasons. Calm down my dear, and remember the hawk part of his nym.

I like your thinking, swksvolFF.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-03-27 16:04  

#12  The MNF-I reprts that the folks in the mosque were detained for questioning. By the Iraqis.

The thumbscrews pic would be appropriate, I suspect.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2008-03-27 15:25  

#11  This was a battle chosen by the militants. The IA and police, according to the article, must have just embarrassed the bad guys and the militants went to the mosque for sanctuary. It is an excellent opportunity to surround the building. Send in the imam and ask them to surrender - have them march out one by one unarmed in their underwear and make a big show arresting them for further embarrassment and to show their cowardness.

Now, if they fort up and refuse to leave they made the choice to desicrate the mosque and force military action which showcases their callousness concerning the locals. Either way it would be a big PR win for the IA and police, "You cause trouble in Hillah, we send you to Hell-a."
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-03-27 14:13  

#10  I think some reality needs to be applied here.

"Would the Islamics destroy a Christian Church if armed people used it as a base?

Answer "HELL YES THEY WOULD".

Quandary solved, To quote the Bible, "Go thou and do likewise".
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-03-27 14:00  

#9  wm,

over the years ive heard folks here (not all, maybe not the majority, but definitely more than one or two) salivate at the prospect of blowing up mosques.

I aint against doing so if its militarily necessary, but IMO it certainly makes sense to try to avoid doing so if possible for the sake of hearts and minds. Given this is probably a shiite mosque, and the govt is in a hearts and minds battle with the Sadrists for the Shiite population, Id say avoiding destroying the mosque is a good idea, if the operational objective can be achieved without doing so.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-03-27 13:55  

#8  is=>if.(PIMF, dammit)
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-03-27 13:42  

#7  Whiskey Mike: I for one, would be exceedingly happy is any mosque that was used as an ammo dump, sniper den, or any other use that endangers our troops or our allies be rendered into a pile of Kingsford. For those that retained their original peaceful use ( typed with a straight face) they may exist in peace. otherwise pieces.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-03-27 13:41  

#6  LH, your first phrase taints the rest of your comment. Who are the "some folks" you mention? Your implication is that the comment is aimed at the community at Rantburg.

Most disingenuous of you; you calculate wrongly. Sly phrasing does not serve to hide your intent.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2008-03-27 13:15  

#5  Surround it with snipers and whack anything that shows so much as an eyeball.
Posted by: Chief Running Gag   2008-03-27 13:03  

#4  Thanks, Sea. It's nice to be appreciated. Just think how the NYT circulation would improve if they hired me as a headline writer. Or, for that matter, if they printed stories like this.
(aka Glenmore, on home computer)
Posted by: Menhadden Snogum6713   2008-03-27 11:34  

#3  the Hillah Guerillas? It is to laugh.
Posted by: Seafarious   2008-03-27 10:50  

#2  Well, maybe not blow it up. However, filled with tear gas would be perfectly acceptable.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-03-27 09:07  

#1  much as some folk crave burnt mosques, I suspect the tactic here will be to starve/thirst the buggers out, while containing them with an economy of force (since the main thrust is, afterall, in Basra)
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-03-27 09:00  

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