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Iraq
BS Alert: US snipers accused of targeting civilians in Sadr City
2008-04-24
Residents, doctors of Baghdad's Sadr City say US snipers deliberately shoot civilians in legs, stomachs.

Baghdad, 24 April 2008 (Middle East Online)

Civilians caught up in the crossfire during raging street battles between Shiite militiamen and security forces in Baghdad's Shiite bastion Sadr City are blaming an unseen danger – US military snipers.

At least 321 people have been killed in Sadr City since March 25 and hundreds more wounded, many of them brought to hospitals with wounds that doctors say appear to be caused by high-powered rifles and "American bullets."
AK47s are low powered rifles?
US military spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Steven Stover dismissed claims that US snipers are targeting women and children as "preposterous" and said the wounds could be the result of "un-aimed" militia fire.

Residents of Sadr City, however, bastion of the Shiite militia of cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, blame US snipers whenever someone is shot in the stomach or the legs.

The mother of Ali Murtatha, a three-year-old boy lying with bullet wounds to his stomach in Al-Sadr hospital, has no doubt that her only son was shot by a US sniper. "An American sniper shot my child. Who else would shoot my boy? The place where we stay is tense. There are American soldiers everywhere near us," she said as she watched over him on his hospital bed, where he is lying with bandages on his stomach and an oxygen tube in his nose.
Certainly a lion of Islam would never hurt a child except when blowing up Pet Markets and mortaring soccer fields.
His mother, Umm Murtatha, says he was shot outside his home in a southern sector of the impoverished slum district, which is criss-crossed by tiny lanes lined with small overcrowded homes.

In the same hospital, Tharwat Abbas, aged 26, lies under a heavy blanket in one of the hospital's few air-conditioned rooms on the ground floor. Abbas has two bullet wounds -- one in the stomach, the other in his left thigh.
Two snipers?
"There was some random shooting in our area. After a while it stopped and I stepped out of my house to fetch my younger brother when suddenly I was shot twice," Abbas said. He too believes the bullets were fired by a US sharpshooter.
If it was an American sniper he would be talking out of a hole on his shoulders where his head used to be.
"If we wanted your kid dead, lady, he'd be dead ..."
"I don't know who shot me but I believe it was an American soldier," he said.
I could tell because the cracking noise the bullet made was in English.
Medics at Al-Sadr Hospital say some bullet wounds are difficult to explain as being caused by random fire.
Random fire bullets only nick you in the arm.
"Random shots usually hit anywhere, but these people have wounds on specific parts of the body ... like their stomachs and legs," said Doctor Ala Haider.
I'd hate to be wounded in the anywhere.
He said some patients had been cut down by bullets that appear to have been fired by US forces. "During the operations on the patients we found bullets inside the bodies. They were American bullets. We can distinguish the American bullets from the Iraqis," he said.
The American high powered bullets remain inside three year olds.
Lawmaker from Sadr's political bloc, Falah Shanshal, backed the widespread claims by locals that US snipers have been targeting residents of Sadr City since Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered a crackdown on Shiite militants.
That proves it, we've been found out.
"American snipers are on the roof-tops. They have killed many people. It has become difficult to move now, especially in the evenings," he said.
Especially if you're a Sadrist ...
The US military dismissed the allegations. "No American soldier is targeting innocent civilians of any age. We don't do that," Lieutenant Colonel Stover, spokesman for the US military command in Baghdad told. "Allegations that we would target innocent teenagers, children, women and men are preposterous. Tell the mother of the three-year-old our hearts go out to her, but her son was not targeted by an American sniper."

Observers say, however, the US military is well known for its indiscriminate fire whenever they come under attack.
Arabs only fire into the air, never at people and certainly never indiscriminately. Spray and pray is a infidel myth.
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#13  Legs are traditional Muslim targets. I don't know about stomachs -- this could be a replacement for the coal roasting.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-04-24 21:18  

#12  "Random shots usually hit anywhere, but these people have wounds on specific parts of the body ... like their stomachs and legs,"
AK47s only hit non-specific parts?
Posted by: Darrell   2008-04-24 20:02  

#11  I know it won't happen, but I'd really like someone like General Petreaus, when questioned about this, to say, "It's not American snipers. If our snipers shot these people, they'd be dead."
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-04-24 19:30  

#10  If any 7.62 NATO round fired from an M-14 or other US sniper rifle is found in the body of a child it is a spent bullet or a ricochet. Two rounds in a living carcass is very unlikely. And if in a child it's even more unlikely.

It's not like we are talking about hitting a good sized elk or deer with enough mass to stop a soft-point bullet.
Posted by: tipover   2008-04-24 19:25  

#9  7.62 translates into 30 caliber, .311-.312 to be exact, but a .308(30-30) bullet will shoot quite well in a .312 bore, (Yep, tried it)
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-04-24 19:14  

#8  and of course the lying Sadr mouthpieces doctors know it was a US sniper because the "cartidges" removed from the wounds were...uh....
Posted by: Frank G   2008-04-24 19:05  

#7  AK 47 uses a 7.62X39 it's the same bullet but different length of cartridge, (Lower powder charge, same bore)
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-04-24 19:00  

#6  Don't US snipers use M14's or some variant? Those shoot a 7.62mm round (7.62 51mm according to Wikipedia). IANAGE (I am not a gun expert) but it would seem to me that it would be VERY difficult to tell the difference between a 7.62 bullet from an AK-47 and an M14.
Not to mention, as other people have, that US snipers a) don't target young kids and b) they generally hit the body part (read: head or chest) that they are aiming at.
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-04-24 16:24  

#5  My guess is that we will start seeing a LOT more stories like this now that Balil Hussein is free. He is a propagandist,

Exactly. If a tactic is working unusualy well, the AIF and their useful idiots here start squealing about atrocities.

I call BS. Our snipers are better than that. Most of the casualties are probably from mookies enforcers in Sadr city.
Posted by: N guard   2008-04-24 16:08  

#4  Also adding to the BS level of this story, is the fact that the Iraqi Army is switching over to the M-16/M-4 family as its main assault rifle. How do you tell the difference between a 5.56 round fired from a M-4 in the hands of an American or an Iraqi?
Posted by: Shieldwolf   2008-04-24 15:51  

#3  Warning: "American bullets." make muslim penises shrivel and fall off.
Posted by: ed   2008-04-24 13:06  

#2  My guess is that we will start seeing a LOT more stories like this now that Balil Hussein is free. He is a propagandist, it is what he does.
Posted by: crosspatch   2008-04-24 12:47  

#1  Well, it's US snipers, they either need some practice or higher caliber weapons because there's an awful lot of their supposed targets walking around yapping about it.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-04-24 12:47  

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