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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Scientist's aim: Alter weather
2008-04-24
Roelof Bruintjes dismisses the old saw that everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything about it. The Boulder scientist has made it rain in Australia, Turkey, the Middle East, Africa and Wyoming.

Even the Chinese asked Bruintjes — one of the world's leading experts on weather modification — whether he could advise them on how to make it not rain for the Beijing Olympics.

Bruintjes (pronounced broon-chess), who was in China about a month ago, had to tell the Games' organizers there are no guarantees for a dry 100-meter dash. "We cannot make clouds or chase clouds away," said Bruintjes, who leads the National Center for Atmospheric Research's weather-modification group.

Sill, Bruintjes and other scientists speaking Tuesday at an international conference on weather modification in Westminster said there are possibilities for managing and modifying weather — from making rain to reducing the severity of hurricanes. What is needed, they said, is renewed federal backing of the research.
Check with AlGore on how to scam the the folks and get them to pay for it.
"In terms of the stakes, I think we owe it to the taxpayers to give it our best shot," said Joseph Golden, a senior research scientist at the University of Colorado's Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences.
This is the same University that brought us the Imitation Indian Ward Churchill. Maybe we could hire him to do a rain dance.
Scientists are monitoring more than 150 weather-modification projects in 40 countries, including at least 60 in the Western United States. The projects include wringing additional snow out of clouds for California hydropower and easing droughts in sub-Saharan Africa.

Most of the current research on this inexact science is being conducted abroad, since funding for a majority of U.S. efforts dried up in the 1980s.
Dried up funds (drought) most likely caused by Global Warming.
China has 30,000 scientists devoted to weather modification, although their efforts to ensure sunny skies for August have not been proved, Bruintjes said. The Chinese plan is to pre-empt usual summer showers by cloud seeding before the opening ceremonies or reduce the size of water droplets in clouds to delay storms.

"There is no evaluation. There is no scientific literature available that can substantiate their claims," said Bruintjes, who has no immediate plans to return to China. "Personally, I'm very skeptical about what they're claiming to do."

The ability to alter the weather has been an age-old quest, and determining the precise effects of efforts such as cloud seeding can be elusive. Still, scientists say they have high confidence and some documented successes. Modern technology more than ever before is allowing them to peer into the formation of clouds at the molecular level and ever so slightly influence the weather.

Arlen Huggins, a scientist with the Desert Research Institute, says that cloud-seeding experiments have shown as much as a 20 percent increase in precipitation in some situations. Water utilities increasingly are willing to risk a modest investment for the prospect of additional economical water, Huggins said.

But the effects are clouded by the overwhelming presence of pollutants such as soot, which can mimic the nuclei of ice crystals and water droplets that form clouds.
Clouds are ice crystals or water droplets, you twit.
Such "inadvertent weather modification" is a ripe area for research, Huggins said. "We don't understand all these processes yet and how pollution might affect clouds," he said. <
span style=background-color:yellow;>That was the whole theory of the nuclear winter in the 70s. Pollution supplied hygroscopic nuclei that increased cloud cover and reflected sunlight, thus cooling the Earth.
Dampening the severity of hurricanes also has become a high-profile issue in the wake of the damage caused by Katrina, even drawing the attention of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

One proposal calls for sending a ship into the eye of a hurricane, where giant fans on deck would be used to weaken the inner cloud wall — if the ship didn't sink first. We could enlist the 30,000 Chinese to blow simultaneously in the opposite direction to stop the Hurricane. "There's no shortage of looney good ideas out there," Golden said. "There are some wacky ones, too."
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#7  REDDIT > NEWSCIENTISTS > MAN-MADE, ARTIFICIAL "GLOBAL/PLANETARY SUNSHADE" TO COOL EARTH MAY DESTROY UP TO 76% OF EARTH'S OZONE.

Also from REDDIT > SOLARSCIENCE.blogs > SUMMARY -"SUNSPOT/SOLAR CYCLE 24" Sunspots, while LATE, is still acting within the SUN's "NORMAL PARAMETERS" OF MEASURED HISTORICAL ACTIVITY. NO NEED TO PANIC = HAVE A COW, MAN, UNLESS "24"'s ACTIVS STAYS LOW OR INACTIVE THRU YEAR 2009 OR 2010, AND BEYOND.

IOW, the Perts may be WRONG about CYCLE 23 MAUNDER MINI-MAXI LEAD TIME being LONGER THAN USUAL/EXPECTED; or ARE WRONG ABOUT SUNSPOT SCHEDULING MODELS-THEORY AS PER "24"; OR ARE GENER CORRECT ABOUT "24" BUT DON'T KNOW = UNCERTAIN AS TO ITS DELAY???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-04-24 23:48  

#6  But it was a long time ago that those microorganisms gave off oxygen, Aussie Mike. Is our species likely to be able to do anything significant to affect that now?
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-04-24 21:36  

#5  Actually micro-organisms are the reason we have a 20% oxygen atmosphere on Planet Earth, so yes they can have a great effect.
Posted by: Aussie Mike   2008-04-24 21:23  

#4  "What is needed, they said, is renewed federal backing of the research."

Raise your hand if you're surprised.

Thought so.

"We've got to get the funding to protect our phoney-baloney jobs!"
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-04-24 13:07  

#3  What is needed, they said, is renewed federal backing of the research. "In terms of the stakes, I think we owe it to the taxpayers to give it our best shot," said Joseph Golden, a senior research scientist at the University of Colorado's Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences.

It's...for the children. As much as it takes, for as long as it takes. We'll do our part, you do yours. And keep it coming...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-04-24 10:00  

#2  One of the few ways that has ever been devised to affect weather uses something more powerful than humans--microorganisms.

It was discovered that a major algae bloom in the ocean can raise the surface temperature of the water by as much as two degrees, over a wide enough area so it could raise the severity of a hurricane by 1 or maybe 2 categories.

Then if, but only if, a natural hurricane passes through the area of warmed ocean, will it be affected.

Importantly, hurricanes *lower* the surface temperature of water considerably. So the long term affects of hurricanes is cooling.

Few people remember the enormous area of "black water" on Florida's Gulf Coast, where microorganisms had so depleted the oxygen in the water that there was a massive die off of other life. To a great extent, the hurricanes that passed through the area "healed" it by lowering water temperatures so much that microorganism growth was curtailed, and the area could return to balance.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-04-24 09:31  

#1  I thought a more recent theory was that airplane com-trails were initiating excessive cloud formation, causing either global cooling through shading the earth from sunshine.... or global warming through preventing the re-radiation of sun energy back out into space.

Never mind. I'll leave it to cleverer minds than mine to figure it out.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-04-24 04:43  

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