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Home Front: Politix
Illegal Alien Crackdown Will Cost Employers
2008-04-25
The government's plan to crack down on illegal workers could cost employers more than $1 billion a year and legal workers billions in lost wages because they'll be wrongly discharged, sue everybody, and make more evil lawyers, a study commissioned by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce says.

Those costs are enough to trigger a federal law that would require the Homeland Security Department to analyze more thoroughly the effect of its proposal, said Richard Belzer, a consultant hired by the chamber to do the study.
Well, at least his study supported the Chamber's position. So he'll get more studies.
The department's proposed "no match" rule would require employers to fire workers who can't resolve mismatches between their name and Social Security number. The chamber opposes the proposal.

Belzer's study will be among public comments submitted to the Homeland Security Department on the proposal. The department could adopt the proposal after reviewing the comments. The deadline for comments is Friday.

Social Security sends no-match letters to employers. They often occur because someone is working illegally, but a mismatch can also take place because of typos, misspellings and name changes, among other reasons.

The Homeland Security Department issued average costs for employers based on how many employees they have and what percent might be unauthorized workers. It determined there would not be a heavy cost to employers.

Belzer, a former economist with the Office of Management and Budget, looked at overall costs and multiplied the average costs by the number of employers in each category. He also used the Homeland Security's baseless, wild-a** guess estimates that 2 percent of legal workers a year would lose their jobs because they can't resolve the Social Security mismatch.
Posted by:Bobby

#13  We must band together and do whatever is necessary to fight the evils of wage inflation!
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2008-04-25 22:38  

#12  I know, Darth. Just couldn't resist. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-04-25 18:45  

#11  Hmm..if there were no illegals, there would be no need for 'minimum wage laws', the market, without the presence of unlimited labor, would take care of that.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-04-25 18:07  

#10  This is crazy, without illegal immigrants, employers would have to pay people crazy-high wages, or even worse, the legal minimum wage.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-04-25 17:55  

#9  Sorry, I was being facetious.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-04-25 13:33  

#8  Beginning?

Where ya' been for the last century 30 years, Darth?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2008-04-25 13:12  

#7  I'm beginning to think our government doesn't care about the average American!
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-04-25 11:51  

#6  Whenever the Chamber of Commerce and Labor Unions are in agreement on any legislation it means the majority of American taxpayers will end up taking it in the shorts. Two examples come to mind – Increased fuel taxes and Comprehensive Immigration reform.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2008-04-25 11:45  

#5  The only real way to fix the problem is to issue a bounty. $200 a head would work nicely.
Posted by: Snaviting Wittlesbach5868   2008-04-25 11:43  

#4  Better some people who are legit have to fight the Gov't to get their SSNs right than to fail to stop the invasion. The wall won't do it. The only thing that will is to make it impossible for the invaders to survive while here. That means they must be denied the right to work or to receive any benefits. If the lying Democrat sons of whores who pander to the labor movement REALLY cared about the American worker, establishing a loophole-free vetting system would be the FIRST item on their priority list.
The fact that it isn't even ON their priority list more than amply justifies my description of them.
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707   2008-04-25 09:33  

#3  It's a load anyway you look at it.

Just remember the pennies saved by the employer who both pockets the difference to line his bank account and the 'savings' passed on, if at all, to the consumer are made up in the form of taxes and fees to pay for the increase in education, welfare and law enforcement costs involved with illegals. All that is occurring is the form the cost takes not whether there is a cost or not.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-04-25 09:22  

#2  I think the devil is in the details. That is, they are in effect saying that if you aren't in this particular government database, you have no right to work.

But this particular government database isn't particularly accurate, inclusive or comprehensive.

The raw math is that there are over 300 million Americans. But only about 280 million social security numbers assigned to living Americans. Of these, maybe 220 million are, or have been employed.

Since it's a new database, it might only have 20 or 30 million confirmed SS holders at given jobs. Meaning that for 20 years, at least, it is going to be pretty useless. Even after that time, it may only be up to 50% of employed workers.

The awful assumption of databases is that they are 100% inclusive, 100% comprehensive, and 100% accurate. You're not going to come anywhere close to that at the national level.

Several hundred thousand to as many as a million or two Americans are "blanks". The only records the government has on some of them are police records. They are indistinguishable from non-citizens.

Otherwise, they aren't in the system. But beyond that, there are a buttload of "semi-blanks", for which the government has such little, or so innacurate, data, that they are effectively non-citizens as well.

There is no ability to correct bad information, or even determine if it is bad, and mistakes multiply in the system. The government is a sloppy record keeper, and there is almost no way for a citizen to correct errors in their own records.

This is why identity theft is an increasing nightmare. It is both very easy to do, and takes years to correct. A Kafkaesque nightmare.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-04-25 09:06  

#1  In other words, you can do damned near anything as long as the Right People make enough money.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2008-04-25 07:14  

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