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US troops to help 'deluded' British in southern Iraq |
2008-05-13 |
![]() A senior US officer has told the Telegraph that Iraqi troops had not been ready to assume responsibility for Basra when British forces withdrew late last year. He also said that US commanders in Iraq believe the Shia south is ready to copy the developments that transformed the western province of Anbar from being the main hotbed of insurgency into one of Iraq's most peaceful regions. To foster this change, US troops are moving south for the first time since the 2003 war. "There's going to be a whole new approach when we send troops down there," said the US officer. "We won't take the self-delusional route of convincing ourselves that the Iraqis are ready to fight but then standing back while they fall apart. "They're not ready and we have to be more proactive. There's too much at stake." Britain has been in charge of four provinces in southern Iraq since Saddam Hussein's downfall. While the divisional command will continue to operate under British leadership at Basra airbase, the orders of the US units will be to "get out front" and resume patrols and combat missions. US hopes of making the whole of Iraq secure before its eventual withdrawal have been raised by what commanders see as a potential southern version of the Sahwa, or tribal awakening, which turned locals against al-Qa'eda. Troops have been shifted from Anbar province to the Tallil airbase, Nasiriya, to assume responsibility from 550 Australian troops pulling out of the country. According to the US assessment, the Australians followed the mistakes of the British by pulling back to "overwatch" local forces but then neglecting the security challenges in the area. The US officer said its allies had adopted a "University of Arizona" attitude - American slang for being rigid and unimaginative. "There's dirty work to be done and we've got to go forward to it," he said. |
Posted by:Anonymoose |
#15 ION BIGNEWSNETWORK > IRAN SHELLS KURDISH REBEL POSITIONS [again] IN NORTHERN IRAQ. Divert from Hizbullah in Lebanon??? |
Posted by: JosephMendiola 2008-05-13 23:14 |
#14 McElroy is a Brit. Long time foreign correspondent, lived in a variety of places & published in lots of major papers. |
Posted by: lotp 2008-05-13 18:33 |
#13 Sounds to me like McElroy is a puke from America's Sports University. From my recollection ROTC is very big at the U of A too. "Bear Down Arizona" |
Posted by: BoWowBoy 2008-05-13 18:07 |
#12 On the other hand, who wants to die immediately before a pull out? Frankly, I care more for the oil reserves than for the locals. |
Posted by: McZoid 2008-05-13 12:40 |
#11 Never heard that phrase either. Being Fucked up as a soup sandwich, yes. |
Posted by: DarthVader 2008-05-13 09:43 |
#10 you guys want spin, the DT is tory, and would want to make Blair/Brown look bad. |
Posted by: liberalhawk 2008-05-13 09:24 |
#9 I never heard that phrase about U of Arizona and I went to a PAC-10 school. I bet it was an ASU graduate messing with a brit journalist. Good for him. |
Posted by: Penguin 2008-05-13 09:19 |
#8 Damien McElroy. Anybody know his reputation He seemed fair in previous articles. There's no evidence he's making anything up. It's no secret that the US military thinks the British approach had failed. It's just that the soldiers have refrained from commenting in public about it. |
Posted by: ed 2008-05-13 09:17 |
#7 Not a big fan of the Australians or the Brits it would seem. |
Posted by: Waldemar Clins3221 2008-05-13 09:04 |
#6 FYI Moose, for all my decades in and around the Army, and the military in general (in joint commands), I have NEVER heard that phrase. |
Posted by: OldSpook 2008-05-13 09:02 |
#5 The article was written by Damien McElroy. Anybody know his reputation or what he believes in? Is he trying to goad the British into doing something that might raise eyebrows? Is he trying to pi$$ off the Brits? |
Posted by: gorb 2008-05-13 02:34 |
#4 I suspect 'moose & SB are correct. 'American slang,' eh? Nowhere outside of Tempe, I'd bet. Some Scum Devil puke fed a naive reporter a line and he swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. And yes, I am a proud (but completely unbiased, of course!) U of A grad. |
Posted by: PBMcL 2008-05-13 01:35 |
#3 This smells of make up bullshite. |
Posted by: OldSpook 2008-05-13 01:30 |
#2 an unnamed senior offical and an "American slang" term that few if any have heard of. Hmmmmm. Seeing as how reporters like to make up quotes, I'm suspicious of this story. |
Posted by: Sninert Black9312 2008-05-13 00:53 |
#1 N.B.: The University of Arizona is in Tucson, a notoriously Democrat enclave in Arizona. It is the chief rival of Arizona State in Tempe, a notable Republican stronghold. I would hazard to guess that somebody from ASU came up with that particular slang. They also have a very strong ROTC program at ASU, and produce a larger than typical number of combat arms graduates. |
Posted by: Anonymoose 2008-05-13 00:22 |