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Home Front: Politix
City orders guns that fire special plastic balls
2008-06-17
Denver police are stocking up on guns that fire a pepper spray-like substance instead of bullets - a less-lethal weapon used to disperse crowds - in advance of the Democratic National Convention.
Wimps. Go for the tasers.
The department recently ordered 88 Mark IV launchers and projectiles at a cost 'in the low six figures,' the company that makes the weapons stated in a news release Monday. The request was for delivery in advance of the DNC, according to Louisville- based Security With Advanced Technology Inc.
If they even have the Democratic National Convention. I hear the DNC owes 15 million and ain't payin' up.
The convention, scheduled for Aug. 25 to 28 at the Pepsi Center, is expected to draw thousands of protesters to sites throughout Denver. The city received a $50 million federal grant for security. A senior adviser to Mayor John Hickenlooper has said the city plans to spend up to half that amount on equipment, with the rest going to pay offs officers.
What the Hay? We have to fork over 50 million clams for these clowns?
But the city has refused to disclose how it is spending the money, prompting the American Civil Liberties Union last month to file a civil lawsuit.
Hell hath frozen over! I agree with the ACLU for once.
The court filing alleges the city is violating the Colorado Open Records Act. City officials say releasing the information is 'contrary to the public interest' because it could disclose important tactical information, potentially jeopardizing security.
Or maybe who's being paid off to keep quiet.
That's also security in a way ...
A city spokesperson could not be reached for comment Monday. Meanwhile, speculation about what the city is buying has run rampant.
Giant puppets, 100,000 marbles, silly string, party favors, and enough chewing gum for everybody.
Some organizers of protest groups believe police are buying extended-range Tasers and weapons that incapacitate people with high-intensity sound.
I'd certainly be investing in those treats. Nothing but the best for the protesters ...
The Mark IV weapons the city ordered recently fire plastic balls filled with powder that's 'like a combination of cayenne pepper and baby powder,' the manufacturer said. It can be fired from up to 100 feet away, said Ben Cook, director of Veritas, a subsidiary of Security With Advanced Technology.

The balls burst open on impact. While the powder will incapacitate a person like pepper spray, it doesn't cause some of the more severe reactions, Cook said.
It's really noxious stuff. Makes you cry for a week and a half, clears the sinuses for about a decade, and you claw your skin off with the itching. Enjoy, protesters, I'll be sitting home watching the show.
Posted by:Deacon Blues

#13  #12 All jokes aside, how about paintball guns loaded with Infrared flourescent dye mixed with Skunk scent.

Skunk scent for skunks? They'll all be buggering one another in no time at all!
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-06-17 23:00  

#12  All jokes aside, how about paintball guns loaded with Infrared flourescent dye mixed with Skunk scent.
Leaves a lasting impression and easy to find the perps with Blacklight wands.(And gas masks)
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-06-17 22:53  

#11  Mayor John Hickenlooper

OK, just HOW did he ever get elected with a humorous name like that?
Order mass hangings of comedians?
Close all radio and TV stations?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2008-06-17 22:41  

#10  The balls burst open on impact.

hell, the Chicago cops could do that in 1968 with a standard-issue nightstick
Posted by: Frank G   2008-06-17 19:20  

#9  All it will take is one nut case with a gun to turn a riot into a massacre. Things like Molotov cocktails and building arson. Much of it depends on how many experienced anarchists show up.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-06-17 19:14  

#8  You want to see funny, you oughta see the INSANE conspiracy idiots who are having a cow over the military exercise with Blackhawk and Little Birds over downtown yesterday with what looked to be some special ops folks hanging off the side of the LB's. Love to buy them a beer if I knew what bar they were going to (the probably staged out of Buckley AFB - the only major active military installation close to Denver).

The nutjobs up from boulder are screaming is a coup, that having those helis in downtown are a taking our rights away (I asked one of them to document what right, and he was stuck then jumped subjects), that its a setup for Bush to declare martial law, etc.

I only suspected it before, now I am sure: these people in the Dem party are clinically mentally ill, bordering on insane. They need to be hospitalized and treated. Yet they are the ones who will squeal the loudest and set policy for the Dems under Obamessiah.

Start stocking guns, ammo and seed - the lunatics are truly coming to be in charge of the asylum.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-17 15:10  

#7  swksvoIFF, a whiff of grapeshot would work wonders.
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-06-17 14:56  

#6  So you're saying the Democratic Convention might be worth watching...?
Posted by: Thereger Bourbon6658   2008-06-17 14:18  

#5  I have a SL-68 II with 18" rifled barrel, 8oz tank and 200 rnd hopper ready if needed.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-06-17 13:36  

#4  I was there end of April for a meeting and spent 4 days. From what I hear from hotel, restaurant and taxi people - the city is nervous but not troubled. They figure the crazies are just that and since Denver is a city of crazies (walk 16th st. Mall at night) then there is nothing they haven't seen before and if its really weird they have nearby Boulder to consult.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2008-06-17 13:16  

#3  Back in the late 60s when 'rioting' was all the rage of the now 'boomers', the AZNG tested several techniques in crowd control. A rifle without bayonet, a rifle with bayonet sheathed, and a rifle with cold steel [unsheathed]. The crowd showed remarkable respect for the last combination.

All this is just another form of gradualism because no one want to be the 'bad guy' since we've lost our ability to identify the real bad guys. The other side will keep pushing the envelope on what it can get away with till either you get another Kent State [notice how many universities had building burned since then?] or the "authorities" collapse in retreat. Which in the end, will remove the constraints of the citizenry to take what ever is necessary to protect themselves, their families, and their property.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-06-17 13:14  

#2  Maybe they can buy the ones in storage from the Boston PD. They were forced to put them away after they killed a girl in one of the Red Sox riots back in '04.
Make 'em an offer.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-06-17 13:12  

#1  You may fire when ready, Gridly.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-06-17 13:05  

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