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All charges dropped against Lt Col Chessani, USMC (Haditha)
2008-06-17
Follow-up.
CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. -- A military judge has dismissed all charges against a Marine officer accused of failing to investigate the killings of 24 Iraqis.

Col. Steven Folsom dismissed charges Tuesday against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani after defense attorneys raised concerns that a four-star general overseeing the prosecution was improperly influenced by an investigator probing the November 2005 shootings by a Marine squad in Haditha.
Screw you Murtha
Posted by:OldSpook

#30  Thaimble, not smrt, k?
Posted by: Frank G   2008-06-17 22:29  

#29  Shows what happens when you let a self-proclaimed lib have any power of any sort: it goes straight to their head.

I thought my hat size grew today.
Posted by: Steve White   2008-06-17 22:19  

#28  OS, I wasn't distressed to redact your comment. I saw the humor but I also saw that it was over the line. No worries.
Posted by: Steve White   2008-06-17 22:17  

#27  Violence? Moi? Noooo.

I'm just a harmless old teddy bear.

Heh heh.

Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-17 21:10  

#26  And to be very clear, even in jest and with such a very indirect, inscrutable (even humorous) way, it was a call for someon to be killed (as opposed to simply die), and thus was over the line.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-17 21:07  

#25  OS, I have every confidence in your creativity WRT violence. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2008-06-17 21:02  

#24  Folks, please do not taunt the mods on my behalf.

I posted my other comment because I found it rather humorous that my first sink trapping iin recent memory would be over popping paper bags to frighten an old coot...

Its not like I was specifiing a sniper attack, IED or other things our military faces, whilest being sold down the road by some politicians.

You have to admit its unique in terms of dropping a post into the sinktrap - no high explosives, direct assaults, rifle bullets or evne ACME Anvils dropped on the head.

Heh.

So let it be.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-17 21:00  

#23  
The line here is pretty clear. We do not call for the death of US citizens. No matter how much we may feel they deserve it. And Murtha's high on the list of those who invoke such feelings -- in me, in Steve and in other mods too.

Capice?

This is not Steve White's policy - it's the site's policy and all us mods enforce it. Steve's been doing yeoman's duty modding while some of us have been swamped elsewhere, is all.

I personally was attending to the widow and children of an Army officer, a friend and colleague we buried with military honors today, or I might have been the one to sinktrap our esteemed Old Spook's comment in this thread.

Fred's on the line for potential legal liability from such comments. Those who value Rantburg will respect the pretty minimal rules here and not force the mods to have to sinktrap such comments.


Posted by: lotp   2008-06-17 20:22  

#22  P2K, I meant ordinary people in the other districts. You know - voters. Besides, why would the other members of Congress attack Rep. Murtha? All he has done is a) slander members of the military, and b) bring much money to his contributors constituents. To many Congressional Democrats, a and b are both part of his job. For Republicans, b is still part of his job.
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-06-17 19:48  

#21  Thanks P2K. So does this mean the prosecutor who tried to influence the 4 star will be court-maritaled and we will find out what happened?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-06-17 19:27  

#20  For representatives, it doesn't matter if the entire population of 434 Congressional districts hate the guts of a Congresscritter, as long as the people in his district vote for him, he will continue to serve.

Actually, either the House or the Party can strip the individual of all offices, chairs, and powers leaving the individual with a simple vote in the assembly.

Can one of you military or legal guys spell out what that really means?

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART II > CHAPTER 47A > SUBCHAPTER IV >
949b. Unlawfully influencing action of military commission

(a) In General.—
(1) No authority convening a military commission under this chapter may censure, reprimand, or admonish the military commission, or any member, military judge, or counsel thereof, with respect to the findings or sentence adjudged by the military commission, or with respect to any other exercises of its or his functions in the conduct of the proceedings.
(2) No person may attempt to coerce or, by any unauthorized means, influence—
(A) the action of a military commission under this chapter, or any member thereof, in reaching the findings or sentence in any case;
(B) the action of any convening, approving, or reviewing authority with respect to his judicial acts; or
(C) the exercise of professional judgment by trial counsel or defense counsel.


which then leads to -

Art. 92. Failure to obey order or regulation

Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation;
(2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by a member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or
(3) is derelict in the performance of his duties;
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-06-17 19:22  

#19  Fred needs to replace Steve White as a mod. He sinktraps far too often and usually over pretty damned benign comments. Shows what happens when you let a self-proclaimed lib have any power of any sort: it goes straight to their head. Maybe somebody should remind him that the name of this blog is "Rantburg," not "Miss Manners on Etiquette."

Maybe White is prepping for a job on a Canadian Human Rights Commission.
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707   2008-06-17 19:13  

#18  Murtha is to the House as Kennedy is to the Senate. Except Ted has an excuse - he's a Kennedy; Murtha WAS a Marine, so he has absolutely no excuse for being in such dire need of some paper bag poppings.
Posted by: Glenmore   2008-06-17 19:00  

#17  Oldspook, consider it is a badge of honor to get deepsixed in the sinktrap.
Posted by: JohnQC   2008-06-17 18:37  

#16  Johnstown

"They brought their fuckin' toys with them!"

goons
Posted by: Snineting Tojo5324   2008-06-17 18:34  

#15  a four-star general overseeing the prosecution was improperly influenced by an investigator

I am gonna guess that he was made an offer he couldn't refuse, not without risking his career. Of course, the fact that he made this calculation ought to result in him being cashiered post-haste.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2008-06-17 18:13  

#14  Cool! my very first sinktrap in all my years here.

:-P
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-17 18:09  

#13  a four-star general overseeing the prosecution was improperly influenced by an investigator

Can one of you military or legal guys spell out what that really means?

Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-06-17 15:08  

#12  And don't forget... Lt. Colonel William Russell (RET) moved his entire family to PA just to run again Murtha ---William Russell for Congress

Lt. Colonel William Russell is a decorated combat veteran who has served in Desert Storm, the Iraq War, and the Pentagon on 9/11.

He's a Republican, and he came home to run against Jack Murtha in November but they kicked him off the ballot.

For Republicans to have a choice for Congress this November, 1000 write-in votes were needed. OVER 4000 REPUBLICAN VOTERS PUT BILL BACK ON THE BALLOT!
(About 1000 Democrats wrote him in for the Democratic ticket also!)
Posted by: Sherry   2008-06-17 15:07  

#11  I believe Murtha will get his via civil rights, slander and defamation suits to be brought by the Marines individually. I would also like to see the Corps sue him, but that would never happen. Maybe the Commandant can just declare him an ex-Marine. I suspect this is the only price he will pay, but I also suspect he will be watching Michael Nifong's bankruptcy shenanigans for tips on how to deal with his problem.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-06-17 14:27  

#10  You got it, Crosspatch. Do away with earmark life support for dying districts and they go poof! Murtha's district is one that should have disappeared a long time ago. As for the unions, they are mainly to blame for the fact that most of Jtown's factories are shuttered and the rest of the place is a giant unreclaimed brownfield.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2008-06-17 13:41  

#9  "Are people in PA that f***ing stupid?"

No they aren't stupid. He brings MILLIONS of dollars of graft into that Podunk area. Without him and his earmarks, there wouldn't be anything going on there to keep the local aristocracy rolling in cash.
Posted by: crosspatch   2008-06-17 13:36  

#8  Oh yeah - and for Lt. Col. Chessani, OORAH!
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-06-17 13:34  

#7  Jonathan, that is exactly the problem with Congress in general. For representatives, it doesn't matter if the entire population of 434 Congressional districts hate the guts of a Congresscritter, as long as the people in his district vote for him, he will continue to serve. And he ensures they will vote for him by bringing in the pork.
Which is why we need term limits for Congress. And why we will never have them - it will take a constitutional amendment, and the first step in passing an amendment is getting through Congress.
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-06-17 13:33  

#6  Johnstown - the anal abcess of the rust belt...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2008-06-17 13:32  

#5  I wish someone would arrange that feet first thing. If nothing else the fat old bastard has to have coronary problems - just keep startling the old SOB by blowing up a paper bag and popping it near him. If he doesn't have a coronary, he'll probably piss himself like the coward he is.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-17 13:31  

#4  Murtha's district is union central. When the union says vote, everybody votes for the Dem. Murtha will vacate his seat when he's carried out feet first. Alas.
Posted by: Jonathan   2008-06-17 13:28  

#3  Murtha will walk outta this smelling like a rose.
Haditha? What's that? Oh, yeah. Well, my comments were obviously misconstrued. Let's all just...move on.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-06-17 13:18  

#2  Thats 7 of the 8 with all charges dropped or 100% Not Guilty acquittal.

When will that greedy porker lying sack of sh*t Murtha be called to task on this by his voters?

Are people in PA that f***ing stupid?
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-17 13:17  

#1  One more nail in Murtha's coffin.

Burn you hateful shit, burn.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-06-17 13:14  

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