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Obama: U.S. should avoid making bin Laden a martyr
2008-06-19
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says if Osama bin Laden is captured alive, the United States should bring him to justice but in a way that avoids turning the al Qaeda leader into a martyr. After meeting with a team of top foreign policy advisers including some seasoned diplomats he has newly recruited, Obama hit back at efforts by his Republican rival John McCain to paint him as weak on fighting terrorism.
And giving Binny a 'fair trial' makes him look strong?
McCain allies, including former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, have accused Obama of having a 'pre-9/11 mindset' that focuses on law enforcement in fighting the war on terror.

But Obama linked McCain's national security approach to that of President George W. Bush, calling it 'disastrous' and citing the failure to capture bin Laden as evidence of the failure. 'The record shows that George Bush and John McCain have been weak on terrorism,' Obama told reporters. 'Their approach has failed. Because of their policies, we are less safe, less respected, and less able to lead the world.'
Weak on terrorism: you mean Bush didn't kill enough of them?
Asked by a reporter how he would proceed if bin Laden were caught during his presidency, Obama said 'we may not be able to capture him alive.'

'It does not make sense for me to speculate in terms of what the best approach would be in trying him and bringing him to justice,' Obama said. 'I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr,' he added.
Paging Mr. Horton, Mr. Willie Horton to the red courtesy phone ...
'And to assure that the United States government is abiding by basic conventions that would strengthen our hand in the broader battle against terrorism.'
Paging Mr. Clark, Mr. Ramsey Clark to the white courtesy phone ...
Posted by:Fred

#21  I vote for pink mist.
Posted by: DMFD   2008-06-19 22:53  

#20  Soldier's Option. You think the brass has enough balls to prosecute any troopie who wacks OBL?* What do you want him for, intelligence? He's one of the two at the top, you don't need further info from him.

*Yeah, make my day. You think slick fingers Murtha keeps getting reelected, once young trigger puller is out, he'd be able to do a Hillary and end up Senator from a state and have his former superiors in front of him for hearings.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2008-06-19 16:47  

#19  Replace Marvin here with Osama Bin Laden

Take no prisoners, accidents can happen....
Posted by: Jan   2008-06-19 16:06  

#18  The Power Line guys take him to task on this, and rip him to pieces. Obama has the insight into foreign policy of a third-grader in the worst school district in Washington, DC. Electing him to the Senate was a disaster: making him President of the United States would constitute a lapse of judgment similar to electing George III the first American president.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-06-19 14:48  

#17  The Democrats seem to see this war as some kind of game and both sides should play by Marqiuse of Queensbury rules.
If it comes down to relying on the court system, a bullet in the brain, or Hellfire vaporization to put him away, I'd lean to option B or C. Closes all possible loopholes. A martyr's a martyr. But he's still dead.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-06-19 13:50  

#16  Obama said. '... to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts .

I'm reminded of the OJ trial, yeah the whole world watched and laughed at this ridiculous outcome.
hmmmm, a jury of his peers, put some of the congress critters in the jury box.

Asked by a reporter how he would proceed if bin Laden were caught during his presidency, Obama said 'we may not be able to capture him alive.'

you got that right

Remember Pulp Fiction; Vincent asks Marvin for his opinion about the "miracle," accidentally shooting him in the face while carelessly waving his gun.(I wanted to add that picture from the movie here)
Man that was a great movie.


Posted by: Jan   2008-06-19 13:35  

#15  And if we had 12 muslims in the jury, would the outcome be different than the OJ trial ?
Posted by: wxjames   2008-06-19 11:22  

#14  Use him for an Ebola experiment.
Posted by: 3dc   2008-06-19 10:15  

#13  I'd worry less about making a martyr out of him than just getting bin Laden. If you have to bury him under a freeway in New Jersey--fine. Just get him. I can see merit out of making it public that we have caught and killed him. Saddam did not become a martyr after we caught him. Zarqawi did not become a martyr. All those other Taliban and AQ $hitheads that we got did not become martyrs. bin Laden did not give any consideration to the 3000+ Americans he killed on 911 or the numerous other innocents he killed as the result of bombings and other terrorist acts he perpetrated. The world will not miss him a bit. He is evil as Hitler was evil. Bush will have done what he said he was going to do and a message will be sent to other wannabees that there is a price to pay for terror acts.
Posted by: JohnQC   2008-06-19 10:00  

#12  OK compare and contrast...

The latest Obama: we need to bring him to us civilian courts where he is PRESUMED INNOCENT and entitled to a jury of his peers.

Umm, Senator Dumbass, we tried the law enforcement first approach, back in the 93 bombing of the WTC. Didn't work. This is a completely naive, stupid and 9/10 attitude that will get more Americans killed.

And what about Obama's own words that he would invade Pakistan to get to him, and kill him?

So Obamessiah, you hypocritical son of a bitch, which is it? Presumed innocent? Or Kill using the military?

Frikcen press, keeps shoveling coverups for this idiot. Maybe its time to take down the mainsteram leftist press since they are abandoning any pretense of impartiality and are destroying democracy by mal-informing the public. Soon it will be time to strike back at the dishonest destructive press, and it will not be with words.




Posted by: OldSpook   2008-06-19 09:39  

#11  Rush is off target with his focus on the presumption of innocence. The real question is how you can impanel an impartial jury with the President of the United States having condemned him for committing the crime. No jury, no trial.

The only trial Osama would get is a show trial. And I doubt that it would convince anyone of anything. Osama should not be taken alive. Didn't work for Napoleon, won't work for Osama.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-06-19 09:22  

#10  I like the idea of replacing some of his DNA with that of a pig. Gene therapy. Add some Dr. Moreau plastic surgery as well.

"Four legs bad! Jihad good!"
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-06-19 09:11  

#9  "Just shoot him and leave his body for the vultures."

NO NO NO. He MUST be presumed INNOCENT in a COURT OF LAW, until proven guilty! We MUST follor the Geneva conventions and give all mass murderers of Americans the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: Obama   2008-06-19 09:07  

#8  Just shoot him and leave his body for the vultures.

And doc, what has the Sarlacc ever do to you to deserve being fed OBL?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2008-06-19 08:27  

#7  Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says if Osama bin Laden is captured alive, the United States should bring him to justice but in a way that avoids turning the al Qaeda leader into a martyr

What, you mean garotting him in an oubliette without any press mention? Because that seems the safest way to liquidate his Osamaness without anybody making a successful martyr of him.

Asked by a reporter how he would proceed if bin Laden were caught during his presidency, Obama said 'we may not be able to capture him alive.'

Uh, actually, this sounds surprisingly like Obama just proposed murdering bin Laden in secrecy. Jeez, that's the most sensible thing I've ever heard the Obamanation propose. I must be mis-interpreting his Changeness.

Wouldn't it be a trip if the first thing they told President Obama upon swearing in that Bush had had bin Laden secretly liquidated in late 2002?
Posted by: Mitch H.   2008-06-19 08:22  

#6  I say we feed Sammy to the Sarlacc.

Posted by: doc   2008-06-19 08:05  

#5   U.S. Citizens and demoCrap Illegals should avoid making bin Laden a martyr voting for Obama.
Posted by: RD   2008-06-19 04:20  

#4  "U.S. should avoid making bin Laden a martyr"

BS. I want his head on display in the Smithsonian preserved by submersion in the urine donated by US citizens.

Might be time to go "Vlad the Impaler" on the Taliban. When they enter Afghanistan they should find the heads of their mates on pikes along the route.
Posted by: crosspatch   2008-06-19 02:54  

#3  A credit to Harvard Law (wonder if he read an history book in his entire life?)
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-06-19 02:34  

#2  Traitor
Posted by: 3dc   2008-06-19 00:54  

#1  ION FREEREPUBLIC > seems NORTH KOREA + SYRIA discussed putting CHEM WARHEADS atop missles???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-06-19 00:41  

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