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Browne casts doubt on Nato's long-term future | ||||
2008-06-21 | ||||
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Addressing an international security conference in Rome, Browne told fellow defence ministers that Nato was 'not getting the forces or capabilities it needs in order to maintain its credibility in carrying out the full range of missions for which it was designed. As a consequence, there are concerns as to its longer term viability.'
There is a serious shortage of aircraft, especially helicopters, to support British and other foreign troops in Afghanistan. Reflecting concern, even anger, in British defence circles about what is perceived as a dangerous lack of support for military engagement in Afghanistan, Browne said: 'The public and politicians of many European Nato allies do not yet instinctively see expeditionary operations and capabilities as directly linked to their defence and security. Trust me, it is.' Nato forces were in Afghanistan 'taking on extremism and the roots of that extremism, because it is a grave and proven threat to our public and to the security of every citizen in every Nato country - from Istanbul to New York', he asserted. 'The inclination to re-focus on patrolling the home turf is deeply ingrained, but deeply flawed.' Browne criticised Nato for maintaining outdated command structures and rigid committee systems. He also suggested British troops were being put at risk by Nato's failure to cooperate with other international agencies. 'The need for Nato to work alongside other organisations - especially the United Nations and European Union - is equally strong. The fact that they cannot is a victory for dogma over pressing operational need. It is incomprehensible to me, the defence secretary of a country in all three organisations, that we should have such difficulty in working together.'
'The prize of the UN, Nato and the EU working properly together ... is more effective operations.' He said Nato must be 'transformed'. However, he steered clear of commenting on a French defence and security white paper which proposes closer French military ties to Nato but also more effective and closer defence cooperation within the EU.
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Posted by:Steve White |
#8 Nato allows a few European nations to pretend they are making a difference by putting their troops into warzones, even if the troops can't get there without assistance, can't stay there without assistance and aren't actually involved in fighting so they are not helping much. Remove Nato and you remove the last fig that the Europeans have any hard power. Nato should be killed. |
Posted by: rjschwarz 2008-06-21 14:02 |
#7 The UK's problem is that it has cut so many ties with the US in weapons procurement that it is becoming very difficult for them to fight next to Americans regardless of their courage or will. The UK needs to decide if it wants to be four (or more) countries or if it wants to be a province of the EU. They are getting close to the point where they will have made the decision by no longer having a choice. I'd much rather they joined us instead of EUrabia. Perhaps there will be a chance when Liz dies and they have to face the prospect of being ruled by Imam Chuck. |
Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-06-21 12:24 |
#6 This would be the defence minister that has presided over the continued gutting of the British forces, is it? He'd better talk to his prime minister and his party than shake his finger at the rest of NATO. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2008-06-21 10:27 |
#5 It's dead Jim. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-06-21 08:48 |
#4 The UK's problem is that they only European country who can project a substantial force capable of actually fighting. And that is why we should keep trying to recall Britain to her heritage and senses, even if it seems increasingly unlikely. |
Posted by: lotp 2008-06-21 08:15 |
#3 Sure you wanna keep trying to be with the "in" crowd in the EU, England? They keep talking sweet, but you will get bum raped after everything is said and done. |
Posted by: DarthVader 2008-06-21 08:09 |
#2 The UK's problem is that they only European country who can project a substantial force capable of actually fighting. No other Europeam country can do this, not even the French. NATO served its purpose. Let it die. Time to look for new alliances with countries that have capable militaries - India, Singapore, Thailand, Iraq. |
Posted by: Butch Angaviter9749 2008-06-21 08:08 |
#1 There's a reason Browne doesn't want to comment on Sarkozy's proposal. It would effectively gut any other cooperation in favor of a French & German-domainated EU force that would inevitably be paid for and staffed by British bodies and equipment. Gordon Brown won't let him call this to the public's attention. But if you think the existing NATO situation in Afghanistan is bad, where British and US troops take all the risks and casualties while a French general claims to lead in places, imagine an EU force that gets deployed to serve Brussel's agenda. It would still be the Brits paying but they'd lose whatever control they still have. |
Posted by: lotp 2008-06-21 08:03 |