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Afghanistan
Canadians deliver blow against Taliban
2008-07-17
As Canadian military officials claimed a major blow against the Taliban on Wednesday, insurgents launched two dramatic attacks in Kandahar province that had Canadian troops scrambling to respond.

No Canadians were hurt in the assaults which killed three Afghan Police officers and an undetermined number of civilians. But the Canadians rushed their Quick Reaction Force (QRF) of infantry and combat engineers to rebuild the district's main highway 40 kilometres west of Kandahar City that had been cut in half by one of the attacks involving a powerful roadside bomb.

In the other assault a few kilometres further down the highway, insurgents fired rocket propelled grenades at a convoy of Afghan civilian fuel tankers, setting five on fire and, according to local officials, killing at least one Afghan woman who happened to be nearby.

The two attacks took place within four hours of each other and straddled the timing of a victorious news conference held by Canadian military officials and the governor of Kandahar to announced a successful airstrike against the Taliban which they believe killed Mullah Mahmoud, the second-in-command of Taliban forces in Kandahar province. "Let there be no doubt, our troops have the initiative in Kandahar province," said Brig.-Gen. Denis Thompson, commander of Canadian soldiers in Kandahar. "Afghan troops and ISAF soldiers are routinely defeating insurgents in our area of operations and insurgents have suffered heavy losses across the region."

As Thompson spoke, the five fuel tankers were already ablaze and insurgents were just minutes from detonating the roadside bomb that could be heard by soldiers at the Canadian forward base in Masum Ghar, three kilometres away.

The force of tanks, armoured personnel carriers and combat engineering vehicles were already preparing to go out in aid of the fuel tankers when they were called to the roadside bombing.

The QRF has had a busy summer. It's being requested so often by Afghans under attack in the violence-prone Zhari and Panjwaii districts that some Canadian soldiers say they sometimes feel as busy as firefighters in a town filled with arsonists. "Yes, it is frustrating to have to redo the same 10 kilometre stretch of road almost daily now but overall we can't stop reacting to what they're doing," said Warrant Officer Patte Forest of Shilo, Man. "It's going to be a very slow process, there's no doubt in my mind. I think everyone understands that. But if you let the frustration of redoing the same things over and over again get to you, we're not going to accomplish anything."

Canadian soldiers insist conditions are improving for Afghans in Kandahar province despite grim comments from American military officials who talk of the "resilience" of the insurgency and talk of conditions getting worse, not better. When asked why the American are so pessimistic, the Canadian commander at Masum Ghar shakes his head. "I don't know," said Maj. Chris Adams of the Lord Strathcona's Horse based in Edmonton.

For Adams, life in the local districts of Panjwaii and Zhari have been steadily improving since Canadian troops fought pitched battles with the Taliban in 2006. "We have a bazaar here in Zhari-Panjwaii, a market that a year ago had two shops open, that was it, two butcher shops," said Adams. "There are now 210 shops with 160 owners and last week they actually formed a chamber of commerce."

Besides being home to the Quick Reaction Force, the Canadian forward base at Masum Ghar is a centre for Canadians who mentor the Afghan Army and police.

Part of the Canadian strategy to is gradually train local Afghan forces to take over more of the security work, allowing the NATO-led coalition to eventually leave. However, American military officials say before that can happen more foreign troops are needed to support Afghan forces and fight insurgents.

The summer fighting "season" has not gone well for U.S. troops who said on Wednesday they were abandoning a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine of their comrades earlier in the week.
Posted by:Fred

#7  They were the heroes of Dieppe. I salute them all.

At Dieppe on 19th August 1942, Honorary Captain Foote, Canadian Chaplain Services, was Regimental Chaplain with the Royal Hamilton Light Infantry.


'Upon landing on the beach under heavy fire he attached himself to the Regimental Aid Post which had been set up in a slight depression on the beach, but which was only sufficient to give cover to men lying down. During the subsequent period of approximately eight hours, while the action continued, this officer not only assisted the Regimental Medical Officer in ministering to the wounded in the Regimental Aid Post, but time and again left this shelter to inject morphine, give first-aid and carry wounded personnel from the open beach to the Regimental Aid Post. On these occasions, with utter disregard for his personal safety, Honorary Captain Foote exposed himself to an inferno of fire and saved many lives by his gallant efforts. During the action, as the tide went out, the Regimental Aid Post was moved to the shelter of a stranded landing craft. Honorary Captain Foote continued tirelessly and courageously to carry wounded men from the exposed beach to the cover of the landing craft. He also removed wounded from inside the landing craft when ammunition had been set on fire by enemy shells. When landing craft appeared he carried wounded from the Regimental Aid Post to the landing craft through heavy fire. On several occasions this officer had the opportunity to embark but returned to the beach as his chief concern was the care and evacuation of the wounded. He refused a final opportunity to leave the shore, choosing to suffer the fate of the men he had ministered to for over three years.
Honorary Captain Foote personally saved many lives by his efforts and his example inspired all around him. Those who observed him state that the calmness of this heroic officer as he walked about, collecting the wounded on the fire-swept beach will never be forgotten.'
The London Gazette, 14th February 1946.

Posted by: Besoeker   2008-07-17 20:58  

#6  when I said cost benefit, I meant mainly from our POV. If you use air instead of ground, your forces are safer, you have more collateral damage, and that collateral damage hurts you in fighting for hearts and minds.

Obviously there are going to be some occasions its worth it, and some where it isnt. Are we leaning to far towards air now? I dont know. Im not there, my ass isnt on the line, and more important I dont have access to the military and political info that US AND Canadian and British senior officers do. So dont ask me to decide on my own.

I am only saying that it IS an option, to go with less air, and some in afghanistan, and in Canada, advocate that. If and when this becomes an all Afghan show, it will be the Afghan NAtional Army whose asses are on the line, and they will have the right to try it with less air if they see fit.

Repeat, I am NOT some leftie screaming about the evilness of our killing the human shields. Im simply trying to respond to someone who is sceptical that the ANA could even try to win without an air force.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-07-17 16:57  

#5  LH, if the cost benefit is that they die so I live the numbers are just fine with me. Afterwards we can debate whether the human shields had to die as well. But I want your butt on the line (preferably in the lead squad) before any guidance is heard from you on tactics so I know you are thinking of the welfare of the troops.

Civilians trying to control squad and company size maneuvers from 8,000 miles away are a deadly way to run things.
Posted by: tipover   2008-07-17 11:40  

#4  "They can take over the ground fighting and continue to use coalion air"

And to the extent that the Afghan government finds it necessary, we will have continuing influence.
Posted by: Bin thinking again   2008-07-17 11:01  

#3  1. They can take over the ground fighting and continue to use coalion air

2. they can rely less on air - theres an argument that we over rely on air, which has caused excessive collateral damage (real, not only enemy propaganda) that has not been cost benefit justified.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-07-17 09:13  

#2   How are they ever going to be able to take over without their own air force? We depend heavily on ours and use our planes, choppers and drones constantly.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-07-17 07:40  

#1  And yet the locals continue to request protection by Canadian troops. Clearly they've made an impression.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-07-17 06:06  

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