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Britain
Spy dogs parachuted into war zones
2008-07-21
BRITAIN'S SAS has revealed plans to cut down casualty rates in Iraq and Afghanistan by parachuting in German shepherds to spy on rebels.

The Sun reports the dogs are being trained to leap from planes at 25,000ft wearing their own oxygen masks and strapped to special forces teams. Once they land, the dogs will lead the way by finding enemy hideouts with cameras fixed to their heads. The images will then be beamed back to the troops, warning of rebel locations and ambushes. The bold plan comes after three SAS troopers were shot dead on raids in Iraq over two years, with eight seriously wounded.

An SAS source told The Sun: "The dogs will be exposed to very high levels of danger on these operations and you never know what's going to be behind a door. Nobody wants to see the dogs get killed but if it's their life or a man's it is obvious which the commanding officer would prefer."

The dogs will be used in a precise manoeuvre technique called High Altitude High Opening, jumping as much as 35km from their targets and gliding towards them for up to 30 minutes.

Dogs were first trained to parachute in the Second World War by the British on rescue missions. But they have never jumped from high altitude, the best way for small groups of men to get behind enemy lines undetected. The dogs have big advantages over soldiers in that they arouse less suspicion approaching targets, can squeeze into tighter spaces and can sniff out booby-trap explosives. Two have been issued to each of the regiment's four squadrons with troopers specially selected to be their handlers.
Posted by:phil_b

#18  Even better. Pigs with bomb vests. That'll freak them out.
Posted by: phil_b   2008-07-21 22:03  

#17  Gaaawd I miss my dog(s) - my old dog RICO ruled the neighborhood as a Guard Dog and ALpha Male, but was scared to death of heights and water even iff I was holding him [shake like a puppy]. My present dog Brownie is also a good Guard Dog, but he'd covertly sneakily play and sleep wid "the Pack/Hood" unless he knows/sees I'm watching, whereupon he'll suddenly turn traitor and chase his Dawgs-in-the-Hood Boonie Boyz away like GUARD-ZILLA!

D *** NGED SNEAKY MR BURGULAR-DO-YOU-THINK-MY-BUTT-LOOKS-PRETTY LOVABLE DOGGY TRAITOR!
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-07-21 19:39  

#16  Freakin lasers are indeed the key and medical augmentashun.

Yes, Razorbacks on Meth, with friggin lasers, cheep whiskey and easy credit for Infidel Pr0n
Posted by: .5MT   2008-07-21 19:00  

#15  Thats what I was thinking - Pigs are smart as well. Put some razor armor on them, a camera and some freakin lasers on their head, and the ability to combust.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-07-21 16:55  

#14  An SAS source told The Sun: " . . . Nobody wants to see the dogs get killed but if it's their life or a man's it is obvious which the commanding officer would prefer."

Can they go back to the old way if Obama is leading a search team-- like during a publicity stunt in a war zone? Just wondering.
Posted by: ex-lib   2008-07-21 16:13  

#13  Spy pigs are next?
Posted by: JohnQC   2008-07-21 15:31  

#12  Re #8 - also, the aliens decided not to attack Earth after the wolverine, which had whipped the grizzly (which had almost broken their Ferocity Meter), approached a bunch of human children. Instead of destroying the children, the wolverine allowed them to pet it and play with it. The aliens reasoned that if this over ferocious wolverine would allow mere humans to play with it, the humans must be even more ferocious.
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-07-21 15:19  

#11  training film:
http://www.break.com/index/extreme-catapulting.html
Posted by: underdog   2008-07-21 15:17  

#10  How about just cloning the AFLAK duck? They would come with their own parachute ( sort of) and after 3 or 4 minutes of the innane commercials the talibunnies would be happy to off themselves.......
(Especially if the Yogi Berra ones were replayed incessantly)
Posted by: USN,Ret.   2008-07-21 13:54  

#9  Spot, that is one of my favorite SF stories - I wish I could find it again.
I wonder if wolverines are haram?
Posted by: Rambler in California   2008-07-21 12:05  

#8  How about wolverines? (and I don't mean the Ann Arbor type;) Anyone remember the old sci-fi story about aliens who visit Earth and witness a wolverine whuppin' a grizzly bear, then deciding that Earthlings were too tough?
Posted by: Spot   2008-07-21 11:59  

#7  I can just see a batallion of mother Grizzlies coming down on Miranshah. Won't THAT put a kink in the talibunnies' tails? Faster, please.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-07-21 11:42  

#6  So... how about parachuting a pack of wolves?
a mountain lion? a Kodiak?
heh heh...
Posted by: 3dc   2008-07-21 10:19  

#5  While it sounds grotesque, I suspect such dogs would, or at least should, have implants so that they can be "remote controlled". This is a lot different than it sounds and much research has gone into it in the past.

In practice, it is a "horse and rider" remote. The operator sends signals giving general directions of where to go and what to do, but it is up to the dog to figure out how to do it the best way.

For example, one signal will mean "guide right", because that is the general direction of the target in a forward direction. Another is the "good" signal, for the dog to continue to do what it is doing.

Such signals even work with lab rats. And dogs are not only a lot smarter, but have been bred to respond to complex commands, like the Shepard breed.

Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-07-21 09:01  

#4  The bold plan comes after three SAS troopers were shot dead on raids in Iraq over two years, with eight seriously wounded.

It's worse than the Russian Front! They're being bled white!
Posted by: Dreadnought   2008-07-21 08:06  

#3  Let slip the dogs of war--literally!
Posted by: Mike   2008-07-21 08:04  

#2  Will they wear booties like UK sniffer dogs to avoid
upsetting muslim "sensitivities"?
Posted by: Mullah Lodabullah   2008-07-21 06:24  

#1  Nobody wants to see the dogs get killed but if it's their life or a man's it is obvious which the commanding officer would prefer."

Not after the Commanding Officer has a conversation with PETA, I'll wager.

Posted by: Bobby   2008-07-21 05:53  

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