You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Olde Tyme Religion
Muslims blast Israel for reading kindness into the Koran
2008-08-05
Arab media around the Middle East this week reacted hysterically after learning that a Jewish professor at Haifa University is using verses from the Koran to teach Arab Muslim psychology students how to treat their future Muslim patients.

Professor Ofer Grosbard developed the Quranet course using specially chosen verses from the Muslim holy book to help students reinforce in their patients concepts like respect, responsibility, honesty, dignity and kindness. Grosbard realized the need for the special course after one of his Muslim students complained that traditional Western psychology would be ineffective on Muslim patients who hold tightly to superstitious beliefs.

Despite the fact that the Quranet course was developed together with 15 Muslim students and was reviewed by three Islamic clerical figures, Muslim authorities around the Middle East denounced the project because it was overseen by a Jew. Speaking to Gulf News, Dr. Abdullah Al Mutlaq of the Senior Ulema Board in Saudi Arabia insisted that all Jews hate Islam, and that Prof. Grosbard's efforts to emphasize the Koran's few lessons in human dignity and kindness would give Muslims the wrong impression of their religion.

Dr. Manae Abdel-Halim Mahmoud, professor of Koranic sciences at Al-Azhar University in Cairo, told an Egyptian newspaper that the Israeli project "aims to tarnish the image of Islam by giving wrong interpretation of the noble Koran." Palestinian Authority officials also blasted the project, stating that the current prevalent interpretation of Islam that has led to so much regional death and destruction is the correct interpretation, and that Prof. Grosbard's kinder, gentler selection of Koranic verses is misleading.
Posted by:ryuge

#11  Muslim authorities around the Middle East denounced the project because it was overseen by a Jew.

Bottom line.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-08-05 19:52  

#10  the Saudi STATE is on our side. That hardly means the senior mullahs there are on our side.

anyway, I doubt Al Mutlaq actually said this
"the Koran's few lessons in human dignity and kindness would give Muslims the wrong impression of their religion. "

More likely he just ranted about Jews, which is kind of standard for KSA.


And if the Saudi royal family can be attacked for having largely created the monster over the years, by empowering the mullahs, and only beginning to distance themselves after realizing the monster could hit them, a fortiori the Egyptian govt cant be held responsible for the rantings of the dons of Al Ahzar.

As for the statement about the PA, again that doesnt sound like something theyd say. Id like to see an actual quote, cited to a neutral source.
Posted by: superstitiousGalitizianer   2008-08-05 13:16  

#9  ...or packing up and going home.

Eventually, we will pack up and go home. And that's when it gets really interesting...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-08-05 12:43  

#8  Depends, tu3031. Do you want to say those who are shooting at us (and more importantly, shooting at Iraqi civilians) are more legitimate and "right" than the people that want peace with us?
Snowman, I have to believe that either the religious text of ANY religion has merit at its most basic level (i.e. words have meaning, they define the ideas that are presented), or it's so much waste paper.

The basic tenents of Islam are clear. Serve Allah, convert others to server Allah by the any means necessary, including the sword.

Are you willing to convert at gunpoint, tolerate Shariah Law? I am not.

As this conflict continues it is becoming clearer and clearer that either the world must become Muslim or Islam must be stamped out. There is no middle ground. If Allah is all that and a bag of chips, then let him move his hand in favor of his servants. They will win and that's that. But Allah does not have that kind of power, he is less than something nasty on the bottom of my shoe.
Posted by: DLR   2008-08-05 12:40  

#7  Welcome to the wonderful sucky world of cold war.

Still doesn't mean we should be saying to (for instance) some Iraqi whose family was just blown up by some Saudi that the Saudi was right and they were wrong.

I have long thought that the westerners in general have a distorted view of the conflict. This is made worse by those western communist tranzi organizations that slightly inflate the number of civilian casualties and then attribute them to the fact of US occupation; we get caught up in debunking the first item's bad numbers and forget about the core truth in it that they use to peddle their _bigger_ lie of US responsibility.

The truth is, most casualties in this war are among the civilian population in predominantly Moslem countries, and consist of Moslem civilians killed by the terrorists.

AND our political system has basically left us with two choices: fight the war by picking a side in the various civil wars going on there, or packing up and going home. If you want some third option, complain to everyone else in the electorate; I'm going to say we should pick the first choice instead of the second. Part of that means we have to say our real allies are right and our real enemies are wrong, even if some of the latter are pretending to be our allies and we're screwed into having to pretend they are, because the almighty retard electorate (again) decided to give them enough of our energy sector that they (in this case I am talking of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) have the bomb.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2008-08-05 12:39  

#6  One of these "scholars" is a Saudi, the other's an Egyptian. Last I heard, they were allegedly on our side.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-08-05 12:05  

#5  No, but we are the ones stuck in a war with them.

It would behoove us to say our allies are legitimate and our enemies not, regardless of whether it's true or not.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2008-08-05 11:57  

#4  Ask them. I'm not the one who's all pissed off about it.
Posted by: tu3031   2008-08-05 11:44  

#3  Depends, tu3031. Do you want to say those who are shooting at us (and more importantly, shooting at Iraqi civilians) are more legitimate and "right" than the people that want peace with us?

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2008-08-05 11:34  

#2  So I guess what our esteemed "Islamic scholars" are saying here is that every stereotype we have of Islam is true?
Posted by: tu3031   2008-08-05 10:17  

#1  Gotta love the sarcasm in this article.
Posted by: mhw   2008-08-05 09:52  

00:00