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Russia Using Ballistic Missiles And Strategic Bombers To Attack Georgia
2008-08-10
Russia's use of strategic bombers and ballistic missiles against Georgia's civilians outside of the South Ossetian conflict is "far disproportionate" to Georgia's alleged attack on Russian peacekeepers, a senior U.S. official said Saturday.

The official was not authorized to speak on the record due to the sensitive nature of the diplomacy.

Russia's use of its potent air weaponry signals a "severe" and "dangerous escalation in the crisis," the official said.

"For the life of me, I can't image that being a proportionate response to the charge that Georgia has attacked Russian peacekeepers," the official said. "It's hard for us to understand what Russia's plan is here."

The official said Russia is probably trying to destabilize Georgia politically to kill its chances of joining NATO.
Posted by:Anonymoose

#20  OldSpook: Knock it off.
Posted by: KBK   2008-08-10 22:17  

#19  Um.
Posted by: trailing wife   2008-08-10 22:15  

#18  Bullshit McMoron.

Clinton did no such thing.

Bosnian civlians were being killed in large numbers, So were Kosovars. See the mass graves you bigoted piece of shit. The Serbs are guilty of war crimes. Accept you you little neo-nazi piece of filth.

Or are you so damned blind that all you see is hatred?

Your type is no different than the insane "kill them all" morons that infest the Muslim hardcore, and the Nazis/Fascists.

You sure have defined yourself McShithead.

Are you one of those holocuast denying shithead McDickless?

First warning, OS....
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-08-10 19:27  

#17  Clinton wanted to start another Cold War. He did it by humanizing Bosnian and Kosovo terrorists. We need to unleash Russians, Serbs and Ukranians against the Muslim enemy. In case anyone hasn't noticed, Muslims are bombing western China. Who gives a rat's ass what Russia and China do to that enemy.

Anyone else, with more patience and lower blood pressure, want to explain to McZerg here about the Russians selling breeder reactors to the most hostile-to-the-US majority moslem country on the planet?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2008-08-10 19:26  

#16  Clinton wanted to start another Cold War. He did it by humanizing Bosnian and Kosovo terrorists. We need to unleash Russians, Serbs and Ukranians against the Muslim enemy. In case anyone hasn't noticed, Muslims are bombing western China. Who gives a rat's ass what Russia and China do to that enemy.

Posted by: McZoid   2008-08-10 19:13  

#15  It's going to happen in any case, LH.

The question is to what degree.

(IMNSHO, the Cold War never quite went away)
Posted by: Pappy   2008-08-10 18:58  

#14  yeah, getting the old USSR back as a strategic competitor will be SO much fun, that whole cold war thingie was so delightful.

Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-10 18:25  

#13  Why would we have any interest in getting involved in this? It's not like we have any extra men or money to throw around, or like we get any appreciation for being the world police. They'll settle it on their own and the further away from this problem the U.S. stays, the better.
Posted by: Sleating Big Foot6595   2008-08-10 18:20  

#12  Russian TU22 confirmed downed by SAM fire.

THe fact that they are using these, strategic assets, speaks strongly to the probability that this was a long laid and planned attack.

Question for the west: what price to we impose on the thug Putin and his thug nation?

I'd say putting Ukraine in NATO, along with US forces there, say a stryker brigade base in western Ukraine (including US basing rights on the black sea and ejection of Russian fleet from Ukraine), that woudl be a huge blow toPutin - and a bit of a backbone stiffener to all the former soviet republics.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-08-10 16:37  

#11  Blogging from Poti, a Georgian port city whose “oil terminal, port facilities and a nearby railroad junction” were attacked by Russian fighter jets shortly after midnight Saturday, 27-year-old LJ user pepsikolka, an ethnic Russian citizen of Georgia, posted these hurried reports (RUS) on Aug. 8 and 9:

Aug. 8, 2008 - 1:23 PM

My colleagues have been drafted, some of them early in the morning, I’m shocked, can’t understand what’s going on and where to look for the truth - Georgian channels say one thing, Russian say something else, what’s going to happen???

***

Aug. 9, 2008 - 12:50 AM:

The port has been bombed, we’re sitting in the street, scared, they say some people have been wounded. Pray for us.

[…]

alchutoff:

[…] That’s ours [Russians] who are bombing you, right?

pepsikolka:

Oh God. I don’t know, but that’s what they are saying.

***
Posted by: 3dc   2008-08-10 16:14  

#10  I think some Tu-22 Backfires have been used.
Posted by: john frum   2008-08-10 08:20  

#9  Probably Grads. After all, a journalism major is writing this story. Same for the "strategic bombers". I saw Su-24s and Su-25s.
Posted by: ed   2008-08-10 08:15  

#8  What ballistic missiles are being used? Iskander?
Posted by: john frum   2008-08-10 08:09  

#7  F*** the Olympics.
Posted by: Bulldog   2008-08-10 05:25  

#6  That and the Olympics.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-08-10 04:53  

#5  Am I the only one thinking that Russia is hoping to take advantage of a US strike on Iran somehow?
Posted by: gorb   2008-08-10 04:23  

#4  THey are also moving the Black Sea fleet in an effort to blockade Georgia.

The fact that Georgian forces haver called for a cease fire, and pulled completely out to pre-attack lines is important.

Whats more important is Russia is using strategic air assets deliberately against civilians.

We have to take hard line on that. And deliver anti-air assets to Georgia if necesary to back it up.

Any advances and further combat by the Russians is nothing more than naked aggression, and will need to be fought hard.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-08-10 02:14  

#3   a good map
Posted by: 3dc   2008-08-10 00:34  

#2  BBC:

Georgia has withdrawn its forces from the separatist region of South Ossetia, a Georgian official told the BBC. Moscow had said there would be no "consultations" with Tbilisi unless it pulled back its troops. Tbilisi said Russia had brought 6,000 troops into Georgia by land and 4,000 by sea in preparation for a dawn raid.
Posted by: 3dc   2008-08-10 00:32  

#1  a blogger blogging russian reports
Posted by: 3dc   2008-08-10 00:31  

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