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Russia blocks UN Security Council draft on Georgia
2008-08-21
Posted by:Fred

#25  and the 12-20 millions that are here without papers or permission?

Those are the fucktards.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-21 21:30  

#24  The Russian birthrate crashed back in what, 1991? So starting next year, the number turning 18YO each year declines sharply.
Posted by: Slats Glans2659   2008-08-21 20:54  

#23  and the 12-20 millions that are here without papers or permission? they are here to become Americans?

just tossing some chum in the water to keep the sharks stirred up
Posted by: Abu do you love   2008-08-21 18:46  

#22  Why should Russians be alarmed of Muslims and Chinese on their soil?

Unlike the real Mexican immigrants (not fucktards like you) and other immigrants, they come to become Americans. The Chinese and Muzzies do not come to Russia to become Russians. They come to conquer and provide a anchor for their claims.
The Russians don't like 'em, don't want 'em and will try to force them off and kill them later in the future.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-21 15:08  

#21  american patrol, eh? you ARE a bigot then, thanks for the answer.

And a stupid one.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-21 15:06  

#20  american patrol, eh? you ARE a bigot then, thanks for the answer.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-21 14:52  

#19  Why should Russians be alarmed of Muslims and Chinese on their soil? I know many and they generally are good and contributing people. So what's the difference? Unlike you Russians are not loosing their language and identity, that's all.

I never said they should. Though in the case of muslims, i would note that russias biggest war BEFORE Georgia was against Muslim Chechens. AFAIK the Chinese in Vladivostok are good citizens, and Im not fantasizing a Chinese takeover. I think the bigger concern is the overall Russia rate of pop growth, esp the death rate. Russias total pop has declined from a peak of 148 million to 143 million, and even according to the new optimistic report, will bottom out at 140 million or so.

as for the russia muslims and chinese, do you rally know many? Where in Russia are you posting from?

as for language and identity, latinos are learning english at pretty much the same rates as earlier generations of immigrants.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-21 14:50  

#18  My 2 daughters are considered Hispanic. Their Mother was Puerto Rican. Why should I fear them? They think they are Americans. I'm not telling them any different, either.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2008-08-21 14:46  

#17  Why should Russians be alarmed of Muslims and Chinese on their soil? I know many and they generally are good and contributing people. So what's the difference? Unlike you Russians are not loosing their language and identity, that's all.

Are you a bigot, or just a jingoistic troll?

PS. BTW, warmest greetings from California:
http://www.americanpatrol.com/RECONQUISTA/IMAGES/whiteygetout000211CRP.gif
Posted by: Matt K.   2008-08-21 14:44  

#16  I prefer real facts:
Population:
140,702,094 (July 2008)
Population growth rate:
-0.474% (2008)
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-21 14:39  

#15  why should I be alarmed about Latinos? I know many and they are good citizens. Bill Richardon, Linda Chavez, General Sanchez. They will contribute to our strength.

So are you a bigot, or just a pro-Russian troll?
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-21 14:26  

#14  ... and if I were you I would be quite alarmed:

http://nationalatlas.gov/natlas/Natlasstart.asp

(click: people/population/race & ethnic population 2000/hispanic or latino origin)

Quite nice, eh?
Posted by: Matt K.   2008-08-21 14:14  

#13  #12 And to think I thought you were serious
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-21 14:06  

#12  I bet Swedish demographs from V&S Group know far better:

http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/04/absolut.jpg
Posted by: Matt K.   2008-08-21 13:54  

#11  Or the day before...
I bet China has a few divisions ready to pounce on Siberia the day it happens.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-21 12:45  

#10  The day after the Chicoms invade.
Posted by: lollypop   2008-08-21 12:31  

#9  Exactly, the veto was put in place for the major powers to protect themselves. All have used it as such at one time or another.

And I'm not sure Russia can keep the population stable. They, on average, have been losing 1 million people a year. Russia used to have the most men to throw away during war in the past, but not anymore. I'm just wondering at what point does the sparse population hit critical mass to cover such a large area and the social network between towns and cities breaks down.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-08-21 11:42  

#8  That's why they have the veto... to protect their own interests.
Posted by: john frum   2008-08-21 11:33  

#7  I thought a Permanent member couldn't vote on a resolution that directly effected them.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-08-21 11:19  

#6  to clarify, my guess is that a lot of deferred births from the previous period are taking place now, under improved economic conditions and govt subsidies, creating a peak that may not be sustainable. But thats hard to say without seeing more detaile demographic analysis, and I cant find any more recent than 2006.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-21 11:13  

#5  matt 1. Shes a government minister
2. Theres too little context for the statistics - raw birth rate, size of the relevant maternal cohort, estimated TFR, etc.

I wouldnt stake too much on that.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-08-21 11:05  

#4  No so fast, Joseph - the present population of Russia is 142 million and not your 90. That's first.
And second - her demographic future may be far more rosy than you,schadenfreuders ever thought:

http://top.rbc.ru/english/index.shtml?/news/english/2008/04/25/25172740_bod.shtml

Posted by: Matt K.   2008-08-21 10:01  

#3  NEWSMAX COLUMNISTS OP-ED > RUSSIA SHOULD HAD JOINED NATO; versus VARI NET > GEORGIA SHOULD HAD JOINED NATO.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-08-21 03:24  

#2  BIGNEWSNETWORK > PUTIN WELL INFRONT OF [US-Russ = Georgia, etc.] END-GAME.

INTERESTING AUTHOR > AS PER UNO-BASED STATS-TRENDS, INDICS THAT RUSSIA'S POPUL MAY FALL FROM APPROXI 90 MILYUHN TODAY, TO ONLY 20 MILYUHN BY 2100 = END OF CENTURY???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-08-21 00:54  

#1  WORLDNEWS > SCO: NATO EAST - IFF ONLY RUSSIA AND CHINA CAN GET ALONG AND WORK TOGETHER!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-08-21 00:41  

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