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| Lurid Moonbat Fantasy #58: Lieberman will throw political opponents into concentration camps | |
| 2008-08-21 | |
| Jane Hamsher, Huffasnuffaluffagus Post . . . I have an elaborate nightmare where Joe Lieberman gets the VP nod, McCain wins, then dies -- and we're looking at a President Lieberman. At which point I and a host of others bloggers who supported Ned Lamont wind up in Guantanamo Bay.
Because I do not look good in orange. I don't think it's going to be Lieberman--but you gotta admit, it would be entertaining seeing the Ned Lamont moonbats have a cow over it if it was. If you think the ever-classy, well-spoken Ms. I think Joe Lieberman is running for Secretary Of State on the Republican ticket. Once again, we see casual anti-Semitisim bubble up on a Left-leaning site, and there's no pushback. | |
| Posted by:Mike |
| #16 So you can appreciate the beauty of the place. Including the mosquitoes. I can hear it now: "I wonder what they eat when they can't get Jane Hamsher and Kos?" |
| Posted by: Waldemar Uneack9263 2008-08-21 23:57 |
| #15 At which point I and a host of others bloggers who supported Ned Lamont wind up in Guantanamo Bay. Nonsense. More like a camp in ANWR. So you can appreciate the beauty of the place. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2008-08-21 22:31 |
| #14 Thanks for the info, LH & TW. I am sad to hear that you both feel more vulnerable as Jews, though. |
| Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-08-21 20:54 |
| #13 Thank you for adding to my post,liberalhawk. I have to disagree with you about Lieberman, though. I agree with you about the increase in overt antisemitism since 9/11; that fact affected our decision about which universities trailing daughter #1 applied to. But the world is not going to hate America, Israel or Jews more if Lieberman is next in line to be the most powerful man in the world, and I don't think considerations of the opinions of the haters would much alter President McCain's decisions. And it would certainly send an effective message to those contemplating acting against Israel. I don't much care if those don't think we might be acting fairly -- they have demonstrated to my satisfaction that they do not deserve fairness, only justice. (That would be justice by my definition, not theirs.) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-21 19:30 |
| #12 and as for lieberman, I almost thinks thats a negative. at least for me, i dont know how many others feel this way. Since 2001 I feel TOO exposed as a Jew. Theres a nastyness going around, not only on the far left but on the buchananite, and even the "realist" right. And in many parts of the world (im not even talking the muslim world). Just as at one time we needed to let other people step up for social justice, we also need to let e other people step up for democratization, for the transformation of the muslim world. We cant afford to always be on the stage. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2008-08-21 14:46 |
| #11 Shoot, look at me and our own liberalhawk, who has felt forced to vote for Republican candidates because the Democrats have not presented a pro-WOT candidate for the position just to clarify, I voted write in for lieberman in 2004. I couldnt bring myself to vote for you know whom. I voted GOP for congress - I wont mention names, but if you knew the district I lived in at the time, youd understand why. I expect to vote dem for the house and senate this year, and for the WH, well I will be listening. Needless to say I think a Biden pick would be a very good thing. 25% number is a pretty good estimate, though. Note of course, you hardly have to be a socialist to be a Clintonite. In fact I dont think you CAN be a socialist to be a Clintonite. Of course Im using socialist like it really meant something, not just as a term of abuse for anyone to the left of the WSJ editorial page. Most suburban Jews like an internationalist (and pro-israel) for policy, a mdoerately secularist approach to social issues, and a moderate economic approach - free market capitalist, but not ideologically rigid and with enough attention to social welfare to help keep societal peace, something we value for good reason. Id say thats roughly 50%, who are basically happy with the DLC wing of the Dem party. 25% to the right - both the more religious and socially conservative, the portion of the more affluent who more openly vote their pocket books, and those whose orientation on for pol and israel is somewaht furhter right - IE pro-Bibi, anti-Euro, etc. Note these 3 groups DONT always go together, and their differences in many ways mirror those of the rest of the GOP. But yeah, theyre all pretty much GOP. On the left, youve got folks who really do still take a social justice agenda seriously, and beleive in positions beyond clintonism to implement it, more extreme left libertarian types, and for pol doves - including folks who are mainly embarassed by Israel more than support. That gives about 25% who support the left wing of the Dems, or even nader. And they too dont all agree in emphasis, like the rest of the left. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2008-08-21 14:40 |
| #10 And yet Jews overwhelmingly vote Dem. WTF? No so overwhelmingly as they used to, Swamp Blondie. In fact, like so many other groups that have effectively assimilated into the mainstream (middle class blacks, middle class Hispanics, middle class Asians...) the percentage of Jews voting Republican has been growing in a steady upward curve, plotted against the post-Clinton elections. There are multiple reasons for this: few Jews are involved in the union movement these days, even the Zionists have mostly given up on the Socialist dream, Jewish religious conservatives (including the Orthodox, of course) vote for socially conservative candidates, the generation that credited FDR and thus the Democrats for fighting the Nazis has been dying of old age, and finally the more conservative Jews are having the most babies, who generally grow up to vote like their parents. Shoot, look at me and our own liberalhawk, who has felt forced to vote for Republican candidates because the Democrats have not presented a pro-WOT candidate for the position. Back when Senator Kerry was running for the job, I was invited to a campaign presentation Kerry's brother -- who had converted to Judaism -- made to the Cincinnati Jewish community. To be honest, I missed his speech because I got a bit lost and arrived late. But I did grab some punch and circulate, listening to the various community leaders worry aloud how to bring he fightening number of young Jewish voters who were expected to vote for President Bush back to the Democratic fold. The last number I recall is some 25% of Jewish voters went Republican, which was probably 2006. In 2004 I wasn't up to paying attention to statistics. Were it not a real threat that Jewish voters might follow Lieberman, the crazies wouldn't be getting so upset. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-21 14:11 |
| #9 Simplisticly, this is likely projection; we are hearing what they WANT to do at their core, but are afraid it will be done to them, because that's what they would do if they could. They think everyone else has the same desire. |
| Posted by: Whiskey Mike 2008-08-21 13:34 |
| #8 If these fools had ever bothered to read Gulag Archipelago they'd know what camps were really all about. And why. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2008-08-21 12:30 |
| #7 Some of these people do need rounded up... and put in mental wards until they get the right medication level. Geez these guys are sick. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-08-21 11:05 |
| #6 I think that isolating loons like this is positive reason to vote for Obama... It won't "isolate" them. It'll empower them. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2008-08-21 10:28 |
| #5 The moonbats really have an issue with being rounded up, yet that fear never stops them from publicly pulling out their hair and gnashing their teeth and telling their enemies exactly who they are and what they've done. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2008-08-21 10:01 |
| #4 At least some of the, er, intelligence-challenged seem to be working for the DNC; from Redstate: DNC on Eric Cantor: "Both Abramoff and Cantor are Jewish": The Democratic National Committee has a website set up to attack potential McCain running mates as "The Next Cheney" (if only); if you want to see there are pages dedicated to Bobby Jindal, Mitt Romney, John Thune, Tom Ridge, Tim Pawlenty, Carly Fiorina, Charlie Crist, Fred Smith and Eric Cantor. Lest there be any doubt as to the origins of this site, there's a disclaimer at the bottom of each page: "Paid for by the Democratic National Committee — 430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington DC 20003." |
| Posted by: Abdominal Snowman 2008-08-21 09:55 |
| #3 I thought Bush was gonna put them all in Guantanamo Bay? Or was it AshKKKroft? Or was it Cheney? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2008-08-21 09:29 |
| #2 #1 Did you read this? the idiot also thinks the Joos run Obama and Hillary. This isnt about Dems and Reps its about idiots. Who are to be found all over, if you want to comb through blog comments. I think that isolating loons like this is positive reason to vote for Obama - I know how disappointed they will be when they dont have Bush and "neocons" to blame for longstanding planks of US for policy. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2008-08-21 09:28 |
| #1 And yet Jews overwhelmingly vote Dem. WTF? I kinda like the idea of a VP who will be workin' hard 24/6. ;) |
| Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-08-21 08:50 |