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| McCain makes decision on running mate |
| 2008-08-29 |
| According to Betfair Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty has got it in the bag. |
| Posted by:tipper |
| #48 If the Palin run causes a self destruct among the woman and minority demcocrat voting blocks, it may effectively destroy a viable democrat party. If so, I DO hope that republicans have learned their lesson on earmarks and pork. We need smaller government, not a new boss/old boss change in management. |
| Posted by: Slats Glans2659 2008-08-29 20:36 |
| #47 Here's my fantasy/dream: McCain/Palin 2008, 2012 Palin/Jindal 2016, 2020 Jindal/?? 2024, 2028 |
| Posted by: Rambler in California 2008-08-29 19:58 |
| #46 NPR was crying, even the positive-mccain voice: the play action pass. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2008-08-29 19:48 |
| #45 The Democrats are completely un-nerved. All they can do is cry "No Experience" but they really need to look at their own candidate. They made their bed and now don't want it. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2008-08-29 19:38 |
| #44 The more I see of Palin, the better I like her. I went to bed last night thinking I was, like Winston Churchill after Pearl Harbor, "sleeping the sleep of the saved and thankful." There's nothing risky about this move; it was a truly brilliant counterpunch to the Dems and has nailed them solidly in the solar plexus. I've never seen a candidate for either party in any election pull this much support so soon. This woman looks like the second coming of the sainted Margaret Thatcher. McCain/Palin walks away with this one. The Dems spend the next eight years weeping, wailing and gnashing their teeth. Couldn't be better. |
| Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-08-29 19:14 |
| #43 Palin is a little risky, but a brilliant choice IMO. She's smart, strong, articulate, has forced a corrupt and bloated AK party to reform, has a sound 20 yr marriage and is as genuine as they come. Alaskans tend to be generalists, not coastal professional specialists. Don't let her resume put you off - let's see how she handles the pressure of the debates. If she does as well as I think she will she will be a major asset. And her interracial marriage goes a long way to neutralizing the 'racist' argument. |
| Posted by: lotp 2008-08-29 18:46 |
| #42 Sarah Palin has been the head of a private company, city council member, Mayor of a small town, and Governor of a wealthy large state that borders 2 foreign countries (Canada and Russia). WAY more experience than Obambi and she is the number 2 on the ticket, not the Presidential candidate. This just adds depth to the McCain ticket, as well as relative youth and obvious vigor (you don't have 5 children and be a weakling). |
| Posted by: Shieldwolf 2008-08-29 18:44 |
| #41 I'd vote for him, Besoeker. But I suspect Fred is too smart to run. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2008-08-29 17:09 |
| #40 I like Palin and think she'd be a great candidate in a decade or so but doesn't anyone care about experience anymore? Not only is McCain throwing that card away but he's putting a two year Governor in the on-deck circle. She might bring social conservatives back into the fold but will she really have appeal to Hillary voters who may not be able to look beyond her Pro-Life stance? I hope I'm wrong but I think there is a bit of overly exuberant thinking going on because everyone is so happy McCain didn't pick another Rino (or Lieberman). Please, someone convince me her experience is more than two years as a Governor and/or that the VP experience doesn't matter so much (when the President is in his 70s and a cancer-survivor). |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2008-08-29 16:59 |
| #39 Breaking news! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2008-08-29 15:45 |
| #38 Alaska is no small state - not in square miles but oil, fishing, minerals etc. Minimal experience is a first term senator who spent half that term campaigning. I'll take Palin no problem. As far as her having children, I thought this election was about the children?1!% Besides, the father will be around to raise the kids, right. Leaving after one thread and not sticking up for your point. Bye then. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2008-08-29 15:38 |
| #37 There will be a contingent that makes the same argument Churt5804 does. The key is that her conclusion is to sit out the election rather than vote for the other guy. It was quite brave for a lurker to make something like this her first post, and y'all must admit she was polite and non-confrontational, sharing her opinion for informational purposes rather than leaping into argument. Churt5804, please remember that Rantburgers tend to be a rather rough'n'tumble group, who generally leap on ideas with teeth and claws bared... and expect to be met by the same. ;-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-29 15:29 |
| #36 It isn't the fact I can't stomach it, I find it to be sexist and completely lacking in fact as her record shoots your lame argument down. Apparently you don't have a good argument that is worth debating. Please leave then and go whine to the DailyKos kiddies. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-08-29 14:17 |
| #35 It's great to know that at least one person with a journalism degree doesn't think Obama walks on water. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2008-08-29 14:10 |
| #34 I have read this forum for years...but it has become tiresome lately ...guess you've managed to weed out anyone who doesn't think in lockstep with yourselves. Bye. Posted by Churt5804 2008-08-29 13:37 Yup! I remember all those postings from Churt5804 over the years..... And BTW, its GOVERNOR Palin. She's ran her husband's fishing company, been a Mayor, and is now a GOVERNOR. She even took on her own party and won pushed through actual ethics reform (unlike Queen Nancy) and is against earmarks. A lifetime member of the NRA. Sounds good to me. Too bad we can't reverse the ticket. Obama? Lets see.... oh yes.... he was chairperson on a government cash giveaway (along with a unrepentant former terrorist) which failed miserably. And ZERO accomplishments in Congress. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2008-08-29 14:03 |
| #33 Darth, you make my point for me..I don't need to give you any arguments, the decision has already been made...it is my viewpoint and you can't stomach it and will continue to quash it.... so sad, this was at one time a good forum...enjoyed your comments Fred... |
| Posted by: Churt5804 2008-08-29 14:02 |
| #32 I invited you to offer a good argument since your previous argument was mush, not quash your viewpoint. Instead, you cry like a liberal. You sound like Moveon.org and so far sound like them. I really want to hear a good, sound argument on why you are against Palin instead of sexist views. You got any? Well, if you don't, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-08-29 13:46 |
| #31 Darth Vader, your attempts to quash other viewpoints is pathetic. I thought this forum tried to uphold free speech. Trailing Wife, I am well aware of how people make childcare arrangements. Sorry to pop your bubble, but I believe the Republicans have just handed over the country to the Democrats...and that's a scary thought. But revel in your fantasies... I have read this forum for years...but it has become tiresome lately ...guess you've managed to weed out anyone who doesn't think in lockstep with yourselves. Bye. |
| Posted by: Churt5804 2008-08-29 13:37 |
| #30 Besides which, Governor Palin has two teenage daughters - built in babysitters. (I know that teenage daughters hate that term. My daughter in law was 14 or 15 when her sister was born.) |
| Posted by: Rambler in California 2008-08-29 13:22 |
| #29 Churt5804, governors and vice presidents hire nannies to stay up with babies at night. Shoot, I had an au pair to share the burden with for my second child, born after we moved to Germany, and I was merely a housewife married to a middle manager. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-29 13:00 |
| #28 ...a four month old baby she'll be dealing with while sitting at Security Council meetings exhausted from being up at night with the baby and four other kids... But yet she has done well as Governor, Mayor, and council member. Sorry, your argument has no meat. Sorry, this female Republican can't bring herself to vote for either party this year. Considering the lack of real substantive argument from above, I think you are a lefty male troll sitting at the Obama HQ. Bring up a real argument or go home to your mama's basement. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-08-29 12:57 |
| #27 Ooh, in four years presidential candidate Palin can tap Bobby Jindal or Mike Steele as her VP (or vice versa), and watch the Democrats seriously tie themselves in knots -- Hillary Clinton will be pwned! McCain had my vote anyway -- I'm single issue until the WOT has been won -- but the next two months will be fun!! |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2008-08-29 12:53 |
| #26 Well, hate to interrupt the party, but a 44 year old woman with very minimal experience, a journalism degree and a four month old baby she'll be dealing with while sitting at Security Council meetings exhausted from being up at night with the baby and four other kids, scares the hell out of me. The thought of her possibly becoming president is a total turn-off to me...What the heck was John McCain thinking? Sorry, this female Republican can't bring herself to vote for either party this year. Which party is more out of touch? Hard to say... |
| Posted by: Churt5804 2008-08-29 12:35 |
| #25 She's got the Viking vote sewn up. Rumor is she is supposed to be pregnant. |
| Posted by: tipper 2008-08-29 12:08 |
| #24 She'll be tested next week when she speaks at the convention. That should be interesting. It's gotta be better than Biden. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-08-29 12:03 |
| #23 Me too. Let's see what the PUMAs think. |
| Posted by: lotp 2008-08-29 11:51 |
| #22 I'm good with that pick. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2008-08-29 11:30 |
| #21 DarthVader nailed it. Johnny Mac is so far inside Bama's OODA loop he knows what Bama's thinking before Bama does. Bama and the Dems are screwed, blewed and tattooed, and the tat will say "Sarah's The One!" |
| Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-08-29 11:11 |
| #20 Born in Idaho, Palin moved to Alaska with her parents, to Charles and Sally Heath, when she was 3 months old. She grew up in Wasilla, just outside of Anchorage, and played on the Wasilla state championship girlsÂ’ basketball team. She was crowned Miss Wasilla in 1984 and was a runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant. Palin studied journalism and political science at the University of Idaho and graduated in 1987. She eloped with her high school boyfriend, Todd Palin, in 1988 to save money on an expensive wedding. She helped out in her husbandÂ’s family commercial fishing business and appeared occasionally as a television sportscaster. Palin won a seat on the Wasilla City Council in 1992 as a new face and a new voice, and by opposing tax increases. Four years later she was elected mayor at 32 by knocking off a three-term incumbent. At the end of her second term, party leaders encouraged her to enter the 2002 race for the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor. Against veteran legislators with far more experience, Palin finished second by fewer than 2,000 votes, making a name for herself in statewide politics. She was elected AlaskaÂ’s youngest and first woman governor in 2006. Sarah and Todd Palin have five children: boys Track, 19, and Trig, 4 months, and daughters Bristol, 17, Willow, 13, and Piper, 7. Track Palin joined the Army last September and will deploy to Iraq on Sept. 11. Palin gave birth to Trig, who has Down syndrome, in April and returned to work three days later. Palin will be the second female vice presidential candidate from a major political party. The first was New York Rep. Geraldine Ferrarro, who was Walter MondaleÂ’s Democratic running mate in 1984. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2008-08-29 11:05 |
| #19 John McCain tapped little-known Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate, two senior campaign officials told The Associated Press on Friday. A formal announcement was expected within a few hours at a campaign rally in swing-state Ohio. McCain, you devious, beautiful bastard you. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-08-29 10:53 |
| #18 She should be president, McCain VP. |
| Posted by: Caesar Glort3087 2008-08-29 10:51 |
| #17 (Fred should put her on the Bloid tomorrow) |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2008-08-29 10:47 |
| #16 cnn |
| Posted by: 3dc 2008-08-29 10:47 |
| #15 It's Palin. O happy day. Hawaii gets the prez candidate, Alaska gets the veep candidate. Well done! |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2008-08-29 10:46 |
| #14 No doubt HP had problems. But she didn't have to attack the company culture to solve them. That was her failing. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-08-29 10:30 |
| #13 The LAST thing Obama wants is to resurrect the shallowly buried corpse of his anti-Hillary misogyny. I would agree. And if McCain picks her, it shows he is far, far inside Obama's decision loop and Bambi is about to go down in flames. Never try to out-decide a fighter pilot in tense situations. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-08-29 10:27 |
| #12 Michael Palin? |
| Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC 2008-08-29 10:25 |
| #11 I'll admit Fiorina messed up her years at the top of HP but even if she had done everything right, the company would still have problems. The company has about doubled in market value since she left but some of that is due to fixes she put in the last year she was CEO. |
| Posted by: mhw 2008-08-29 10:19 |
| #10 Steve, I fully agree with your wish. That said, I think McCain would stand back and dare Obama to attack Palin. The LAST thing Bama wants is to resurrect the shallowly buried corpse of his anti-Hillary misogeny. He or I'm just beginning to believe that Rush was right: he said this would be a banner year for Republicans and darned if it isn't beginning to look like it just might be. It's almost certainly not going to be the disaster everyone was predicting six months ago. |
| Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-08-29 10:16 |
| #9 My two cents: Palin would be an outstanding pick. Smart, tough, personable, good record in Alaska politics. Sure hope she's vetted properly. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2008-08-29 10:01 |
| #8 McCain would be an idiot to pick Fiorina. She was truly hated at HP and she trashed a great company to boot. If she were nominated, there would be lines of people, Republicans, waiting to trash her on NPR and MSNBC. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-08-29 09:38 |
| #7 I'm good with Palin. At this point in the race, with McCain even or just behind in the polls at a time historically where the dhimocrats were up by 10 points, he can be a little adventurous with his choice. As long as he doesn't put the proverbial gun in his mouth by picking Liberman, a unusual choice could pay off in spades. If he chooses Palin, I think Obama will be in for a serious ass whoopin'. She is smart, well spoken, well liked and with no baggage and fits with McCain's election points very well. Throw on the fact she is a woman and the Clinton supporters will vote for her. The fact she is pretty doesn't hurt either. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-08-29 09:34 |
| #6 If it is Palin.....he's got a big chunk of the PUMA vote, that's for sure! |
| Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-08-29 09:31 |
| #5 National Review is saying Palin. I'm cool with that. |
| Posted by: Mike 2008-08-29 09:06 |
| #4 Carly Fiorina was a disaster at HP. |
| Posted by: DMFD 2008-08-29 09:06 |
| #3 If he picked Palin this race is over. BHO will lose all 50 states. Ok he might win his home state. |
| Posted by: Cyber Sarge 2008-08-29 08:59 |
| #2 Hmmmm. Now Romney says he has not been selected. There's chirping about a charter flight now in the air from Anchorage to Dayton. Is Sarah Palin the one ? I hope not. Fiorina would be better. Just not Joltin' Joe Lieberman. |
| Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2700 2008-08-29 08:54 |
| #1 Pawlenty just announced on Minneapolis radio this morning that he'd be at their state fair today, not in Ohio. K.B. Hutchinson similarly annonced last night in Big D, that she'd be in Texas today, all day long. Romney was in Caleephorneeaa yesterday, but he might be winging easterly right now. |
| Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2700 2008-08-29 08:15 |
