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Ethiopia hints at Somali pullout
2008-08-29
Ethiopia is prepared to withdraw troops from Somalia even if the government is not stable, Ethiopia's PM says.
I don't regard that as a bad thing, assuming they're willing to come back if needed.

Not that anybody ever listens to me, since I'm just an old crank, but I'd suggest a policy of "thump and leave" as the standard for future operations of this type.

When some bad guy organization like the Powerful Islamic Courts™ takes power in this or that failed state, send in an army to beat the crap out of them and hand over power to someone more palatable. Then leave. When the Powerful Islamic Courts™ comes skulking back in and overthrows the more palatable bunch of crooks, send in the same or a similar army to beat the crap out of them and hand over power to another bunch that's more compatible. After no more than a half dozen iterations of the comedy the locals will get the idea that the Powerful Islamic Courts™ or whomever isn't going to be allowed by the civilized world to take power and oppress people. Maybe they'll start keeping the bad guys out themselves, or the Powerful Islamic Courts™ will decide that they were actually fighting for individual liberty all along.

As a side benefit, the Powerful Islamic Courts™ will be busy bumping off the more rapacious of the more palatable crooks, so that by the time they get the idea to go try their act somewhere else or reform the remaining lot will be more amenable to guidance from the civilized world.

It's a law of nature that gangs of Islamic hard boyz are better at setting up quagmires than they are at actually fielding competent armies. They get whupped each and every time they run into a remotely disciplined force. Their intent is always to make the festivities more like a one-on-one contest, where discipline and teamwork give way to individual prowess, thereby upping the odds of winning the encounter to 50-50 rather than the more usual 50-1.
Posted by:Fred

#4  Hmm.

Evolution on a country-by-country basis. Sorta like, wash, rinse: recycle.
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Posted by: OregonGuy   2008-08-29 17:03  

#3  OP, we/the west won't do that until we suffer a major blow that involves 10,000+ civilian casualties. It is only the death of our own that will harden us to the moral consequence of widespread death on their side. We wouldn't have fire bombed Japanese cities at the start of WWII even if we'd had the planes and bases to do it.
Posted by: remoteman   2008-08-29 14:02  

#2  Reading Rantburg, a half-dozen other sites, and my daily "news"paper, I've found that 80% of the trouble in today's world is caused by one group of religious extremists. Ten percent is caused by anti-religious extremists, and the rest is caused by Russia, trying to re-establish an empire and having daydreams of military hegemony over central Asia. Muslims are involved with 80% of the problems, with the Left and Russia making up the rest. In order to counter this, we need to make sure we can adequately suppress both the 80% and the 20%. We can counter the Left with the truth. We can counter Russia with more and better weapons on hand, without having to use them. To deal with the muslims, however, the only thing they understand is the "strongest horse" - brute military strength. Playing defense doesn't hack it, and being nice only works after you've beaten the living sh$$ out of them. The Ethiopians are playing defense, rather than taking the fight to the enemy. We've used surgically precise attacks to kill 'only' the enemy. Muslims look on both attempts as being weak and effeminate. If we brought only a small fraction of the effort we employed with the landing at Normandy or on Iwo Jima to bear on the muslims, they'd all slink back to their holes and whimper in fear. We, the West, haven't done that. It's costing us the lives of some of our finest and bravest citizens because we haven't. Until we do, this dam$$$ war could last another 40 years.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-08-29 12:40  

#1  I'm with you fred, would add one more thing. Whenever four or more bad guys get together blow them up.
Posted by: bman   2008-08-29 12:09  

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