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Clinton off to FL to hit at Palin on her own Obama's behalf
2008-09-05
Posted by:lotp

#32  Its pretty simple - if Obama wins, Kos and moveon.org take over the Dem Party, and they push everyone else out of the way with Soros money.

Hillary's only hope is 2012, and that means killing Obama's campaign somehow without looking like its what she is doing.

At a minimum, the a loss by Obama means Hillary and the Clinton Machine can take over the party and start chopping the necks of Kos, moveon.org and the other "disloyalists" who cost her this opportunity in 2008 by going with the unqualified "Messiah".

Soros will likely die before the next cycle, and that cuts the puppetmaster out from moveon. And that's when hillary will stomp them flat.

I seriously would not want to be Kos and company with the Clintons in charge and taking scalps. Markos will have to meet wiht her and will leave the room without genitalia -- they will be in Hillary's purse.

She may not win in 2012, but it will not be due to a lack of "unity" enforced on the Dem party. She will, at a minimum, have her revenge. And I'll applaud the whole way.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-09-05 23:12  

#31  Chelsea is earning her money the old fashion way... working for a hedge fund.

(she's adult enough to handle comments about her occupation)
Posted by: Capsu 78   2008-09-05 18:37  

#30  OP, she's not a lawyer. At least she didn't become a "community agitator organizer", so give the Clintons some credit.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields   2008-09-05 16:58  

#29  I think Chelsea has turned out just fine.
Posted by: liberalhawk


Just fine my a$$ - she became another @$%@#$%@##$ lawyer. A pox on them all!

Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-09-05 16:39  

#28  So is this another shining example of Bo's definition of "Above my pay grade?"

When HRC fails, will there be room 'undah da bus' for her??????
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-09-05 15:41  

#27  Capsu, that is what majority of PUMAs seem to think, even without Bill's signals. He already gave that signal anyway, a while ago (all greement but no action vs half-agreement but action).
Posted by: Spike Uniter   2008-09-05 14:19  

#26  My political calc comes up with a different result. Hillary's presidental clock runs out in 2012, IMO. If BO wins, she can't hold together her funding rolodex. Supporters, (including maybe her husband) and more importantly their money, will have to "moveon.org" :-)
2012 for her is what 2008 is for McCain... the last campaign.
Her PUMA base may get the nod and a wink from Bill that a vote cast for Obama is a vote cast against Hill ever getting another chance to wear the brides dress.
Am I mis-reading this? I really suck at calculus.
Posted by: Capsu 78   2008-09-05 12:46  

#25  If I were hillary, I'd work just as hard as bo did for me. No more, maybe less.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2008-09-05 12:16  

#24  Hillary needs to hang on and help enough so that any loss by the Democrats cannot be blamed on her. Hillary is the Democratic frontrunner in 2012 if THE ONE loses. Biden won't get the bid despite being the VP candidate now.

If Obama wins Hillary waits 8 years, but again Biden is an old Codger. He's like Cheney in that he isn't likely to move on to the big chair at that point. So unless another star shows up it's Hillary's again.

Don't feel sorry for her. I'm sure she would have prefered things to work out differently but her position could be worse.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-09-05 12:14  

#23  I certainly didn't mean to defame Chelsea. Seems like a nice person.

Excuse me! You do realize who her parents are, don't you. Chelsea is a Clinton, through and through. It is in the genes.
Posted by: Thor Gluting6175   2008-09-05 12:12  

#22  You guys purport to know more about these families than most folks do about their own. Leave 'em alone. I really don't care about Chelsea or Bristol any more or less than about the other 50 million kids that aren't mine.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-09-05 11:49  

#21  LH

I certainly didn't mean to defame Chelsea. Seems like a nice person.
Posted by: mhw   2008-09-05 11:45  

#20  Mr. Obama asked an audience of several thousand people if they had "caught any of the performances" at the Republican convention.

Condescending ass. liberalhawk, I agree Chelsea turned out to be a lovely young woman. However, the point is that Sarah Palin will (or not, I await waking up on the morning of Nov. 5 with great anticipation) have arrived at the White House without having had to put up with husbandly abuse. Rather, she has gotten loving support from her First Dude for every choice she's made in a career perhaps more pedestrian than Senator Clinton's, but clearly equally satisfying.
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-09-05 11:32  

#19  Hillary has put up with several boatloads of s..t from her husband for 3 decades and now Sarah, who evidently has a beautiful family

I think Chelsea has turned out just fine. I will try to avoid saying more, I didnt bring up anyones beautiful family.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-09-05 11:10  

#18  Dole - she ran against Saitnt W in 2000, and said some kinda resentful things about how he wrapped up the nod through money. Her husband was called the "tax collector for the welfare state" by Saint Newt, and was also not forgiven for supporting Clinton on Kosovo. He is just the kind of old Republican the Palin movement conservatives despise. The Doles aint stars to this GOP.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-09-05 11:09  

#17  She'll end up being purged from the Party, stricken from the rolls. Joining Lieberman as an Unperson

ya think shes gonna lose a primary for reelection in NY and have to run as an independent?

nah. Shes going remain a power in the party. She and Bill have lots of friends, long rolodexes, and Palin WILL make her more important in this campaign. Obama is gonna have to fight to limit her influence in his administration.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-09-05 11:05  

#16  Obama's acting like a wussy little boy who has to beg his big sister to go fight his battles for him while he goes and snivels in a corner.

the irony here is very rich
Posted by: liberalhawk   2008-09-05 11:03  

#15  Hillary has to do this - Obama is no longer her main competitor but Palin. Before Sarah the strategy was to let Obama hang himself by losing to Old John and then Hillary rides to the rescue in 2012. But that strategy is over and Palin is there to run in 2012 as an experienced executive as VP while Hillary is back as lost baggage. Now she has to attack Palin in such a way to make her damaged just enough to allow a gap for Hillary to run against her in 2012.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2008-09-05 10:41  

#14  Probably a strong anti-depressant should be on standbye duty.
Posted by: mhw 2008-09-05 09:51


But don't take the easy road.
Posted by: Vince Foster   2008-09-05 09:56  

#13  Interesting to muse on what was going thru Hillary's mind listening to Sarah's speech.

Hillary has put up with several boatloads of s..t from her husband for 3 decades and now Sarah, who evidently has a beautiful family gets nominated and gives a speech that makes her both the anti-Hillary and the alternative Hillary at the same time.

Probably a strong anti-depressant should be on standbye duty.
Posted by: mhw   2008-09-05 09:51  

#12  Â“IÂ’ve been called worse on the basketball court, so itÂ’s not that big of a deal,” he said. Yet Ms. Palin seemed to be on Mr. ObamaÂ’s mind. At a rally in Lancaster, Pa., Mr. Obama asked an audience of several thousand people if they had “caught any of the performances” at the Republican convention.

Basketball and wimin...."on his mind." Interesting.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-09-05 09:30  

#11  Everyday a Wildcat, there probably aren't that many women upset about Libby Dole's, or even Shirley Chisholm's failed bid like there are/were about Hillary's. Keep in mind that Dole ran back in what, the 90's, and she never was able to rack up tons of votes. Hillary was running until about last month and had a decent shot at the brass ring. The memories are fresher.

Also, if the first female nominee for VP wasn't acknowledged, it surely would have been jumped on by the press.

BTW, NS, you just gave me another reason to vote for McCain. I would just LOVE to see Hillary replace Reid as head honcho in the Senate....just so that Obama has to spend the rest of his career kissing her ass! ;)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields   2008-09-05 09:01  

#10  Palin should invite Hillary to tea or a backwoods hunting and fishing trip.
Posted by: ed   2008-09-05 08:55  

#9  Sea, I agree with you but was puzzled that she thanked Geraldine and Hildebeast yet failed to mention Elizabeth Dole. The Dole's were present that night when she gave her acceptance speech yet I never saw any acknowledgement given. Perhaps it goes back to not showing people who for whatever reason are considered "losers".
Posted by: Everyday a Wildcat(KSU)   2008-09-05 08:26  

#8  Don't feel too sorry, Sea. She's going to inherit the mantle of Teddy and preside over her court of fools in the Senate for many years.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2008-09-05 07:26  

#7  Senator Clinton has already said she will do her best in Florida, working around her many pre-existing engagements between now and November 4th.
Posted by: trailing wife   2008-09-05 04:27  

#6  She'll end up being purged from the Party, stricken from the rolls. Joining Lieberman as an Unperson.

While Sarah gets to waltz into power through the hole Hillary & Co. kicked in the wall, brick by brick, with bloody bare feet.

The ladies in my generation (and yikes! Sarah is more-or-less my generation) will never really fully understand the sacrifices made by the generation before, or the challenges they had to overcome.

Sarah stands on the shoulders of giants.

/Again, I'm not a Hillary fan. And not even a radical feminist fan. But it would be dishonest to fail to acknowledge the debt.

Recognize.
Posted by: Seafarious   2008-09-05 03:32  

#5  From here on up, Seafarious, it is downhill all the way for Hillary.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2008-09-05 03:21  

#4  A little misty for me that Hillary stuck by her philandering hubby and everything else, and now has to go campaign for the One while another, younger woman gets chosen.

I don't like Hillary but it has *got* to be hard for her to want to get out of bed every morning right now.
Posted by: Seafarious   2008-09-05 02:45  

#3  It just has to be said, "Hillary, I know Sarah Palin, and you are no Sarah Palin."

Done!

(What fun that was to add Palin to my spell-checker!)
Posted by: Sherry   2008-09-05 02:10  

#2  Obama's acting like a wussy little boy who has to beg his big sister to go fight his battles for him while he goes and snivels in a corner. Then, once sis takes care of business, he's whooping and hollering about how BAD he is, how he showed that other guy, yeah....don't mess with ME.

(Not that I have personal experience with this. Nope, not me.)

Palin must be scaring the living crap out of him. GOOD!!
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields   2008-09-05 01:06  

#1  Not. Gonna. Work.

Not in FL.
Posted by: OldSpook   2008-09-05 00:33  

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