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| Moonbat Fratricide: HuffPo writer calls for Obama to dump Biden for Hillary; hilarity ensues |
| 2008-09-15 |
| Andy Ostroy, Huffasnuffaluffagus Post . . . It's time to dump Biden and replace him with Sen. Hillary Clinton. I don't care how it's done. Campaign chief David Axelrod can figure that out. And the sooner the better. Because I'm starting to think that if Team-Obama doesn't do something dramatic fast, it's gonna lose this election. There's a worrisome shift in momentum and in the polls. The Palin phenomenon, while truly unfathomable to Democrats, has energized McCain's campaign and allowed him like Houdini to snatch Obama's "change" theme right out from under him. It's time to snatch it back. Conventional wisdom says replacing Biden with Clinton can't be done. That it's too late. That it'll make Obama appear indecisive, (which he is) impulsive (which he is) and lacking good judgement. (which he is) Many Democrats believe this would cause irreparable harm to the campaign, ringing Obama's death knell. But this couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, it'd be a freakin' coup for Obama, and would instantly melt Palin's undeserving outsize political ice cap. To be sure, a Biden-Clinton switch would cause quite a stir in the media. They'd accuse him of all sorts of things, from being politically expedient (which it would be) and flip-flopping (which it would be) to being irrational (which he is) and ill-equipped to be president. (which he is) The talking heads on CNN, Fox and MSNBC would be locked in a non-stop frenzied orgy of derisive rhetoric. (they already are) But we also know that it would make about 18-million Hillary voters ecstatic at the same time. So, honestly, who really cares what Joe Scarborough, Keith Olbermann, Wolf Blitzer or Brit Hume thinks? It would be fun to see Olbermann, who spent all spring condemning Hillary's very existence and calling her a racist and Republican, tie himself in knots rationalizing how he now supports Barack-Hillary 100,000%. These pundits don't constitute an appreciable voting block. What they think and feel would be utterly dwarfed by the euphoria from Clinton's faithful supporters. It's a pretty safe bet that an Obama/Clinton ticket would capture virtually all of these loyal Clintonistas. Don't be so sure. It would also give the campaign the smell of desperation--not that it isn't already smelling a little desperate. It's also a safe bet that many of those highly coveted 18-49-year-old women who polls show migrated to McPalin this past week would drop the spunky little hockey mom in a heartbeat for Hillary. . . . "And then Obama will ride in on his magical unicorn and give all the voters ice cream! We'll have peace, love, and fluffy bunnies!" The HuffPo commenters are not nearly so enthusiastic: McCain picked Palin as a gimmick. So now you think Obama should drop Biden??? THAT is ridiculous! It's not going to happen. Obama would be raked over the coals as indicisive and rightfully so. If I were Hillary, I wouldn't take it at this point. This article is counterproductive. I have supported Obama since Jan 2007 when he announced he was running. I could have accepted Hillary as VP if he picked her first. If he dropped Biden now, that would be the death knell for his campaign. Picking Hillary now would probably be the only thing that he could do to lose my support. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN !!! GIVE IT A REST !!! |
| Posted by:Mike |
| #31 By the way Deacon, I'm planning to move back to the Millbrook area sometime around October, Mom's not doing well and I need to be nearer. (Doesn't hurt to be out of the Hurricane area either. I'm tired of high heat, wind and rain.) |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-09-15 22:41 |
| #30 Same here, RJ. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2008-09-15 22:05 |
| #29 Deacon, from past posts I know that you grew up on the other side of Prattville from me, around the same years, one day I'd like to meet you, I think we'd be friends with very little effort. (And No I don't give a damn what color you are, your brainpower shows, and that's enough for me) |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-09-15 22:03 |
| #28 Enver Glager7892 is me. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2008-09-15 21:27 |
| #27 I feel I must weigh in on the word Redneck Jim used. I'm a 5th generation Alabaman and I know the context Jim was using the word. I don't use that word but in his context it equates to the term "white trash". We allow the term white trash to be flung about with no repercussions. I do realize that for some people the word Jim used is taken to mean all people of African descent and is a very offensive racial slur and that is why I never use the word. I have blood relatives who are black and that's how they refer to black people they consider low-life, good-for-nothings. They do not use the term white trash to refer to white people of low character, however, they do call them honkeys. I hope I live to see the day when there are no African-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc, but we are just Americans. I am realistic enough to realize this most probably will never happen. It saddens me. |
| Posted by: Enver Glager7892 2008-09-15 21:23 |
| #26 The fact is, Ar.is Katsa.ris, that his comments tar everyone else who comments at Rantburg as racist as well. |
| Posted by: Scott R 2008-09-15 21:02 |
| #25 If you were self-censored, you'd merely be a lurker instead of a troll. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2008-09-15 20:55 |
| #24 Coyly using asterisks in that word is the flimsiest of covers. Knock it off. |
| Posted by: lotp 2008-09-15 20:14 |
| #23 That's how they win in the long run Redneck Jim, you can't even discuss race in this country, not really. And certainly not on fair terms with their own language. Thank You BigJim, I was feeling kinda oppressed here in the supposed "Blog of free speech". |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-09-15 19:42 |
| #22 Nimble, I used asterisks, annd did not post the "Hated Word" |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-09-15 19:34 |
| #21 No, they're banning offensive vulgarity. It's not censorship, it's civility. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-09-15 19:29 |
| #20 Jim: don't do this again. Folks at Rantburg aren't racists, don't want to be seen as racists, and don't want moonbats to froth over any perceived racism here. So Although I DID NOT speak "Racist" we "Have to avoid the "Perception" That sure puts a huge damper on the "Civil Well Reasoned Discourse" supposedly to be found here just hint the poster is racist and hint he'll be banned if he continues. Read your own headline Sir "Salmon" You're actively Banning Discourse, if Race is involved. That's NOT "Moderating" It's Censorship. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-09-15 19:25 |
| #19 Jim & Bigjim: You don't need to use the N-word (or the F-word, for that matter) to critique Obama. In fact, I can do a much better job of persuading* people not to support him by not sounding like a cross between Daily Kos and Stormfront.org. *The Kos Kidz are very interested in venting their white-hot rage so they can impress each other: "I hate Bush." "Well, I hate 'im more!" "No you don't, you pansy!" "Who you callin' a pansy? I can out-hate you at twenty paces." "I see your hate and raise you two loathings and a contempt!" "You don't got two loathings to rub together, poser!" "Oh yeah? Well, I hate Bush so much I roto-tilled all the shrubbery in my neighborhood. Top that!" ...and so on. |
| Posted by: Mike 2008-09-15 17:38 |
| #18 "Campaign to begin Wednesday Nov. 5, 2008." Hell, she's already begun, Spot. She goes high-profile on that date. Oy vey. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-15 17:09 |
| #17 That's how they win in the long run Redneck Jim, you can't even discuss race in this country, not really. And certainly not on fair terms with their own language. So we just retreat and call each other racists and keep doing what we do. They MUST be the victim or you're a racist, you have to watch every word you say or you are a racist, they can say anything, do anything, and WE are still the racist. Always, no matter what. |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2008-09-15 16:38 |
| #16 If NY slips any more in the polls, O might have to do something. Hey, he could appoint dual VPs. Joe and Hillary could share responsibilities. Even and odd days. Or Biden could take the day shift, and Clinton the 3:00am shift. Course that would take 2 donks out of the senate. |
| Posted by: Skunky Glins 5*** 2008-09-15 16:25 |
| #15 Please do it Donks. Then when the polls show the Obama ticket taking another hit, change it back to Biden. |
| Posted by: mhw 2008-09-15 16:06 |
| #14 At this point they could win with a Clinton Obama ticket but not with an Obama Clinton ticket. Actually Obama would be an albatross for Clinton. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2008-09-15 12:54 |
| #13 The Palin phenomenon, while truly unfathomable to Democrats, has energized McCain's campaign ... Aye, there's the rub: they just don't get it - or most people in this country. |
| Posted by: xbalanke 2008-09-15 12:38 |
| #12 About the time I think the trunks are too stupid to win...the donks steal defeat from the jaws of victory. It's pretty sweet. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2008-09-15 11:35 |
| #11 Christ, Jim, could you keep any 'own goal' racial epithets to yourself? It's hard enough getting sensitive and uncertain people up here in the Pennsylvania "T" to vote against the glorious mirror-ball without some goddamned stereotype stomping around like a one-man Klan & tarring us all as racist hillbillies. |
| Posted by: Mitch H. 2008-09-15 11:23 |
| #10 The VP choice is the most important single decision a Presidential Candidate can make. It says a lot about who they are. Obama decided he was inexperienced and needed experience on the ticket despite Biden having constant gaffs and no charisma. To change VP choices now compounds that mistake and would really make Obama look like indecisive. Granted there would be big hoopla initially but I have to think HIllary is watching Obama slip with a bit of glee. She may still be the first woman President if Obama loses. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2008-09-15 11:22 |
| #9 Why don't you twits just admit that ya screwed the pooch, huh? |
| Posted by: mojo 2008-09-15 10:51 |
| #8 My own thoughts, you don't like them, pull them down The biggest problem with Obama is he thinks "Black", that means he thinks like a skinny street kid that "Bragging equals fact(And it doesn't) Think what we've seen on the news, He's gonna this, and he's gonna that, but what has he really done? Nothing but run his mouth. Problem as I see it, this kind of "Mouth" is so normal in the young blacks they see it as "Cool" and expected, but to White folks it comes of as "Loud mouth Braggart"(Directly translating as "Worthless N****r") Then he had to team up with Shrillary, probably the single most worthless Female on the planet, at least he (or more likely his advisors) convinced him it was a death sentence to have her as Veep, (Shows smarts, but countered by not having enough smarts to avoid her from the beginning, I do not "know" Joe Biden so cannot comment) Running total? Jumped up N****R, worth only ignoring, poisons anyone he touches and not nearly smart enough to realise he's not squat. Rant over
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| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2008-09-15 10:30 |
| #7 The dhimocrat meltdown continues. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2008-09-15 10:12 |
| #6 Nice snarking, Mike. |
| Posted by: GK 2008-09-15 10:06 |
| #5 Cigar for Swamp Blondie! Obambi goes down in flames and Hillary rises from the ashes as the saviour for 2012. Campaign to begin Wednesday Nov. 5, 2008. |
| Posted by: Spot 2008-09-15 09:52 |
| #4 Hillary's too busy planning for 2012. Not gonna happen. |
| Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-09-15 09:36 |
| #3 Besides the usual socialists who backed the ONE in the beginning, his 'surge' was as much if not more due to the 'Anyone But Hillary' wing of the party. That's what got him to the position he is today. It's too big of a crowd to throw under the bus. Too many votes to lose than gain for November as the ABH crowd will just sit at home asking 'why the hell did I even try' [because you looked upon politics as a solution for your personal unhappiness and anger rather than seek professional help]. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2008-09-15 09:14 |
| #2 news* My thoughts on Hillary replacement: impulsive thinking without regard to consequences, it will be very telling about Obama if it happens |
| Posted by: mastaf 2008-09-15 08:44 |
| #1 Great that high school kids could make a new web site. |
| Posted by: mastaf 2008-09-15 08:42 |