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Africa Horn
Russia asks Somali OK to crush pirates
2008-10-24
Russian Foreign Ministry has asked the Somali authorities to give Moscow leeway in confronting the growing piracy off the Horn of Africa. "To ensure freedom of action in the fight against piracy directly in Somali territorial waters, the Russian Foreign Ministry has asked for consent from the Somali Republic's Transitional Federal Government to grant the Russian Federation the status of a 'cooperating state," RIA Novosti reported quoting the contents of a ministry statement.

The request for permission has been especially moved by the September 25 capture of the 'arms-laden' Ukrainian ship, MV Faina off the Somali coast.

The ministry also ruled out the participation of the Ukrainian government officials in the negotiation processes with the pirates adding elsewhere that, in the event of a hijacking, only "ship owners or managing companies could talk to the pirates."

The ship was reportedly carrying around 100 pieces of military hardware including tanks, anti-aircraft missiles and automatic weapons to Kenya.

Russia has dispatched a naval vessel to the troubled waters to ratchet up the naval surveillance over the seized ship whose Russian captain died while a US destroyer together with two other warships, had hemmed in the hijacked ship.

On Thursday, the Press TV reporter in Somalia said the bandits had threatened to set fire to the ship if the NATO forces, also heading toward the MV Faina, attempted at overpowering the pirates. Delay in the provision of the demanded USD8 million ransom money could also endanger the lives of the 20 crew members.

So far this year, 30 ships have been the causality of the spiraling piracy off Somalia with territorial waters near the northern Somali region of Puntland posing the utmost threat to the passing vessels.
Posted by:Fred

#12  It's both the African Union and the Ethiopians.

Somalia has what is termed a 'rump government'. Meaning it's a legal government but one without much authority or power. But it is the legit government, hence the Russians making the request.

Removal of the aforementioned government would mean that Somalia would fall back under the control of the Islamic Courts group. Meaning that it once again becomes an al-Qaeda support area.

It could possibly also herald the end of Somali piracy, but I doubt it. There's too much money to be made, and only a percentage of it stays with the pirates.
Posted by: Pappy   2008-10-24 22:41  

#11  What would be the consequences of declaring that 'no government exists in the area designated "Somalia?"' (aside from the risk of it being designated a UN protectorate and becoming subject to much posturing)
Would it make any practical difference to anybody but its immediate neighbors?
Posted by: James   2008-10-24 22:04  

#10  I'm not a physicist, I can't even spell it without spell checker. I'm just a poor, pathetic computer nerd. I know about Google and I'm sure somebody sits in Mogadishu trying to act like they have some authority. That's implied by the fact that the Russians are asking them if they can do something about the pirates. Most likely, from what I've been reading here, they are doing so by the grace of the African Union or the Ethiopians. (Sometimes it's hard to keep up. I do my best.) But they don't really have any authority, do they? I mean, if it wasn't a failed state they wouldn't allow pirates to operate from their ports, would they? So I guess I was being sarcastic. Just remarking on the irony of the mighty Russians asking Somali authorities for "leeway".
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2008-10-24 18:22  

#9  Be kind. If I recall correctly, Ebbang Uluque6305 is a physicist, not a rocket scientist. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife    2008-10-24 17:29  

#8  Pappy, I think he was being sarcastic. I think.
Posted by: Steve White   2008-10-24 17:16  

#7  OP: Agreed, and this kindler, gentler Navy(and USAF, to pile on) ain't limited to you BB example.
Mass quantities of dumb bombs delivered from a decidedly non stealthy platform, and mix in a fair quantity of Rockeye would go a long way toward removing the miscreants and their civilian support system. and packs of roving feral fluffy bunnies as well.
one plane one bomb is stoopid.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-10-24 15:06  

#6  Somali authorities? Excuse me, but who are they? What authority do they have and how did they get it?

Research it. There's always a search engine a click or two away.
Posted by: Pappy   2008-10-24 14:26  

#5  I do wish we still had a battleship or two that could throw Volkswagen-size shells into each street intersection until the pirates surrendered. This "modern, all-missile/aircraft Navy" sucks in terms of killing people and breaking things. You could replace the 16-inch batteries with GMLRS and accomplish the same thing the old 16-inchers did, but you NEED firepower. A 76mm popgun just doesn't cut it.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2008-10-24 14:20  

#4  Somali authorities? Excuse me, but who are they? What authority do they have and how did they get it?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2008-10-24 12:07  

#3  Oh, oh
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-10-24 11:44  

#2  Only to deal with the MV Faina.
Posted by: Pappy   2008-10-24 11:13  

#1  You had permission earlier.
Posted by: newc   2008-10-24 00:21  

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