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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Ariz. boy, 8, accused of killing two, including dad
2008-11-08
It's a crime that police officers in a small eastern Arizona community can hardly fathom yet have to deal with: an 8-year-old charged in the fatal shootings of his father and another man. "Who would think an 8-year-old kid could kill two adults?" said St. Johns Police Chief Roy Melnick Friday.

The crime that unfolded Wednesday evening sent shock waves through St. Johns, a community of about 4,000 people northeast of Phoenix. The boy had no disciplinary record at school, and there was no indication he had any problems at home, prosecutors said. "It was such a tragedy," said the boy's defense attorney, Benjamin Brewer. "You have two people dead; you have an 8-year-old in jail. It tugs at the heart strings. It's a shocker, no doubt about it."

On Friday, a judge determined there was probable cause to show that the boy fatally shot his father, Vincent Romero, 29, and Timothy Romans, 39, of San Carlos with a .22-caliber rifle. The boy faces two counts of premeditated murder. Melnick said officers arrived at Romero's home within minutes of the shooting Wednesday. They found one victim just outside the front door and the other dead in an upstairs room.

Romans had been renting a room at the Romero house, prosecutors said. The two men were employees with a construction company that had a contract to do work at the Salt River Project power plant near St. Johns, which is about 170 miles northeast of Phoenix. The boy had went to a neighbor's house and said he "believed that his father was dead," said Apache County attorney Brad Carlyon. Police later obtained a confession from the boy, Melnick said.

Brewer said police overreached in questioning the boy without representation from a parent or attorney and did not advise him of his rights. "They became very accusing early on in the interview," Brewer said. "Two officers with guns at their side, it's very scary for anybody, for sure an 8-year-old kid." Prosecutors aren't sure where the case is headed, Carlyon said. "There's a ton of factors to be considered and weighed, including the juvenile's age," he said. "The counter balance against that, the acts that he apparently committed."

Under Arizona law, a juvenile under 8 years old is treated as a dependent child. Charges can be filed against anyone 8 or older, which Melnick argued are warranted in this case. He said the child didn't act on the "spur of the moment," though he didn't elaborate on what the motive might have been.

Defense attorney Mike Piccarreta, who is not involved in the case, said each case has to be considered on its own merits, but it would be hard for him to comprehend that an 8-year-old has the mental capacity to understand the act of murder and its implications. "If they actually prosecute the guy, it's a legal minefield," he said. "And, two, society has to make a decision as to whether they want to start using the criminal justice system to deal with 8-year-olds. That doesn't mean you don't have a troubled kid."

Brewer, the defense attorney, said the child "seems to be in good spirits. "He's scared," he said. "He's trying to be tough, but he's scared."
Posted by:ryuge

#9  Hell's bells, give that kid a scholarship to Princeton, undergraduate work under prof singer, then a chair at the Woodrow Wilson School of International Studies - he beat his Dad to the punch! heh
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident   2008-11-08 23:28  

#8  Felicia Fonseca, you twit. Learn grammar!

"The boy had went to a neighbor's house..."

Journalists! (snort) AP! (double snort)
Posted by: Spang Squank7927   2008-11-08 22:46  

#7  Insufficient information in the story. No motive given. Is there possible child abuse that is politically incorrect to mention? The kid has NO record of problems.

Or he could be a minor child nutcase that was told to put away his video game...
Posted by: tipover   2008-11-08 17:28  

#6  he'll appeal for sympathy, after all, now there's no father figure to guide him

/Menendez Bros.
Posted by: Frank G   2008-11-08 14:26  

#5  police overreached in questioning the boy without representation from a parent

Is it just me, or---given the circumstances---that sentence is way strange?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-11-08 14:06  

#4  Euthanize him.
Posted by: Jiggs Snereque3808   2008-11-08 09:42  

#3  Do I read this correctly?
The defense attorney is actually trying to get the kid off on a technicality? They better have his rotten little brain inspected is what they better do. Would you want to sleep in the same house as a kid who murders people for no apparent reason while they are sleeping?
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2008-11-08 09:17  

#2  "....said the child "seems to be in good spirits. "He's scared," he said. "He's trying to be tough, but he's scared."

Meanwhile the unborn (or partially born) who have not yet sinned are sacrificed by the tens of thousands.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-11-08 08:06  

#1  Here's the proper link.
Posted by: ryuge   2008-11-08 08:01  

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