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Afghanistan
US caught in awkward spot by Karzai's offer
2008-11-18
This isn't a problem. It shows how reasonable we and Karzai are, and it's a no-brainer because Blinky will never accept.
The US administration found itself in an awkward position on Monday after Afghanistan's offer of peace talks with Mullah Mohammad Omar, the fugitive Taliban leader long seen by Washington as an arch-enemy.

US officials spoke cautiously when asked about a possible negotiation with one of the most wanted men in the world, a day after Afghan President Hamid Karzai's offer of reconciliation.

Backing Karzai's proposal would mark an about-face for President George W. Bush's administration, with the Pentagon last month ruling out any reconciliation with a man who has "the blood of thousands of Americans on his hands."

But explicitly rejecting such a move would put the US government at odds with one of its staunch allies, Karzai, at a moment when Afghanistan faces mounting violence.

"We support Hamid Karzai," said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino, when asked if the administration endorsed Karzai's offer. "What we have seen from the Taliban, however, and from Mullah Omar -- who we haven't heard from in some time -- is an unwillingness to renounce violence."

Karzai said on Sunday he would go to "any length" to protect Omar if the Taliban leader agreed to peace talks, and was willing to risk a rift with his international partners.

The Afghan president has for years pushed for peace talks with the Taliban as a way out of a deadly insurgency in which foreign militants, including those from Al-Qaeda, are said to be playing a part. However he has always insisted that his government would only consider talks with "Afghan Taliban" who do not have ties with Al-Qaeda and agree to lay down their weapons and accept the post-Taliban constitution.

Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, sidestepped the question of Omar but said that the time would come to hold talks with elements of the Taliban who were willing to reconcile. But the time was not yet right, he said.
Good cop, bad cop ...
Mullen said the same approach was used successfully in Iraq and in counter-insurgency efforts elsewhere, saying that it was "very realistic" to pursue talks with insurgents in Afghanistan.

At the White House, Perino said US officials "are skeptical about what the Taliban's ultimate intentions are." "But we recognize that, at some point, there might be some Taliban that are willing to reconcile and to renounce violence and to be productive members of the Afghanistan society."

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said "it's hard to imagine" any circumstances under which US forces would offer safe passage to senior Taliban leaders.

The Afghan president told reporters he would offer protection to the Taliban leader even if it meant defying Afghanistan's international partners, who could remove him from his job or leave the country in disagreement. "If I hear from him that he is willing to come to Afghanistan or to negotiate for peace ... I, as the president of Afghanistan, will go to any length to provide protection," Karzai said. "If I say I want protection for Mullah Omar, the international community has two choices -- remove me or leave if they disagree," he said.

The Taliban, driven from government in a US-led invasion for sheltering Al-Qaeda after the September 2001 attacks, have said they would only agree to negotiations if international troops helping the government pull out.

But Karzai reiterated Sunday that his government would accept no preconditions from the group.

Saudi Arabia confirmed last month that it had been sponsoring talks between the Afghan government and representatives of the Taliban at the request of Karzai in a bid to restore stability but indicated further talks may be difficult.

Omar, who has a 10-million-dollar bounty on his head, headed the 1996-2001 Taliban regime that sheltered Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden and his followers.
Posted by:anonymous5089

#8  Guess we know why DUBYA reportedly OBAMA that PAKISTAN will be Amer's real strategic challenge.
PAKISTAN = NOTSOMUCH PAKIS PER SE, BUT IS SYMBOLIC OF ASIAN "STATUS QUO" = HISTORICAL, POST-COLD WAR, AND FUTURE ASIAN ORDER AS THREATENED BY RADICAL ISLAM, including but not limited to PAN-ISLAMIST NUCLEARIZATION, + US-SPECIFIC ROLE IN PAN-ASIAN, POST-WOT NWO AFFAIRS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-11-18 23:27  

#7  TOPIX/MIL FORUMS > OBAMA: BIN LADEN HUNT, END TO THREAT OF 2009 NEW TERROR ATTACK AGZ USA WILL BE TOP ON HIS WHITE HOUSE AGENDA [post Jan.2009 POTUS swear-in].

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > CHINA WILL HELP MALAYSIA BECOME A MAJOR ISLAMIC [and World] FINANCIAL CENTER + CHINA WILL SEND NUCLEAR-ARMED PLA COMBAT FORCES, WARSHIPS TO NATIONS IN SE ASIA THREATENED BY ISLAMIST MILITANCY [ destabilization and breakup/protection of Chin citizens = ethnics].
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2008-11-18 23:20  

#6  Yes, it is clearly time to go. We are dealing with a tribal/strongman society that very very unlikely to ever resemble a modern nation-state with a stable central government. I don't like giving the Talibs/Al Q any type of moral victory, but no one else is stepping up to the plate and helping us out and we can't keep doing this alone...either in blood or treasure. So I say screw em and if there is even a hint of hanky panky from either Afghanistan or FATA, call in OP's B-52's and bounce the rubble.
Posted by: remoteman   2008-11-18 15:04  

#5  "staunch", yeah. I also suspect that he is about as "staunch" as a pimp-informant.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-11-18 13:06  

#4  

Check out Yon's latest post, a guest post, entitled "Shakedown". It only adds to my feeling that it is time to go.

Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2008-11-18 12:50  

#3  So the Saudis saw and raised our bounty?
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division   2008-11-18 12:44  

#2  But explicitly rejecting such a move would put the US government at odds with one of its staunch allies, Karzai

Somehow I just never got the feeling that Karzai was all that "staunch" of an ally.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2008-11-18 12:32  

#1  Sounds like it is time to go.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2008-11-18 12:02  

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