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| 10 terrorists had entered Mumbai: Police |
| 2008-11-30 |
| The city crime branch probing the terror attack on Saturday confirmed that only 10 terrorists had entered the city just an hour before the hostage drama unfolded on November 26. While nine of them were killed in encounter, a 21-year-old was captured alive. Arms and ammunition brought in by the terrorists was enough to kill around 5,000 people, said police. Cops officially put toll at 162, including 18 foreign nationals. The arrested terrorist, Ajmal Mohammed Amir Kasab, resident of Faridkot village in Pakistani Punjab's Ukada district, told investigators all the terrorists had come from Karachi, police said. They had come in a ship and used a boat to come to the shore, said the police. "Four Indians were already on the boat and the terrorists killed three of them while they used one, Amar Narayan, to handle the boat. When the boat was just three nautical miles away from shore, they slit Narayan's throat and dumped his body in the trawler. They then used their own skill to come to shore." "After landing at Fish Market at Cuffe Parade near Colaba, they formed four groups and hired taxis to reach to their destinations. A group of two young terrorists entered Hotel Oberoi, four into Hotel Taj Mahal, two stormed into Nariman House while the rest entered the CST railway station from its mail trains' gate. Their plan was just to cause maximum damage and return with hostages protecting themselves," said Rakesh Maria, joint commissioner of police, crime branch. As the hostage drama began at around 9.30pm, Kasab along with his accomplice, Ismail Khan, started random firing at CST railway station while the three other teams had began firing at Oberoi, Taj and Nariman House. Kasab, who sustained a bullet injury in his hand during an encounter with the police near Cama Hospital, was captured near Girgaum Chowpatty while Ismail was gunned down. Police recovered a satphone, a GPS tracker, and Indian currency of Rs 6,200. The satphone contains a dozen international numbers. Kasab, cops said, had come to Mumbai for the first time. Cops are still probing if the same terrorists had planted bombs in two taxis that exploded at Byculla and Vile Parle. The terrorists, said police, wanted to launch an attack which would have international ripples. "They were to return after completing their plan," said Maria. He said they all were trained in the same batch in a terror camp. "We have recovered 10 AK-56 rifles, 10 9mm pistols, two explosive devices of eight kg each etc. Kasab and Ismail had fired at Leopold before coming to CST. They all are highly-trained terrorists but it would be difficult to say which terror group they belonged to. We have also recovered 10 fake ID cards of some Indian colleges from the terrorists," said Maria. He said the terrorists had packed huge quantities of dates, almonds and raisins, which they ate during the three-day gun battle. |
| Posted by:tipper |
| #18 All I know is, anyone can break. Torture works just like suicide bombing. It's ugly and immoral but it's real. |
| Posted by: Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-11-30 21:55 |
| #17 Look, you were the one who wanted to argue about whether brutality "worked." Well, look out at the planet, those governments that really are brutal seem to control a very large fraction of the human population. |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-11-30 17:31 |
| #16 Yes Snowy, and it all Started with the gateway drug, Milk. |
| Posted by: .5MT 2008-11-30 17:14 |
| #15 Charles, do you really think a stone cold Muzz kook is afraid of a hog farm? It's like saying American Forces are afraid of burd flu. I suspect it depends on whether he's still alive when his delimbed torso is thrown to the pigs. All this argument about whether "torture" works is besides the point, in a lot of ways. I doubt the North Vietnamese ever really got tactically or strategically important information from any of the prisoners they tortured. BUT: The North won their war. The kids of the torturers own factories where the kids of the guys in the South (those that didn't come to the US) work for $ 2/week making Nikes. At some level or another it worked. |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-11-30 16:21 |
| #14 Yep. Takfiri jihadis are allowed to eat pork and drink alcohol, consort with strippers and whores, so that they may deceive the enemies of Allah. Ordinary Muslims are allowed to eat pork if that saves them from starvation. |
| Posted by: john frum 2008-11-30 15:35 |
| #13 Don't knock the bird flu. Foot 'n' mouth disease on the other hand...whoa. |
| Posted by: Fester Creanter3194 2008-11-30 15:33 |
| #12 Charles, do you really think a stone cold Muzz kook is afraid of a hog farm? It's like saying American Forces are afraid of burd flu. |
| Posted by: .5MT 2008-11-30 15:23 |
| #11 They did. But not to him. I suspect examples were made of others and he was given to understand that he was in a strictly binary situation. New article regarding torture, all around, just posted. Might even have made Jack Bauer nauseous. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2008-11-30 14:39 |
| #10 Did they really apply third world torture to break this guy is my question. Sure, they could have, but by now he HAS to know that he's a goner. Rantburg has been suggesting using pigs and such "evil rascist" techniques to get info for years, maybe the Indian government just offered to bury him in a hog farm if he didn't cough up the goods. |
| Posted by: Charles 2008-11-30 13:29 |
| #9 The numbers have come down. Also the two captured British Pakistanis are no longer mentioned. Either fog of war or the Indian intelligence has a future planned for them that does not include due process in a court of law. |
| Posted by: john frum 2008-11-30 13:13 |
| #8 Doesn't seem like the numbers add up. "After landing at Fish Market at Cuffe Parade near Colaba, they formed four groups and hired taxis to reach to their destinations. A group of two young terrorists entered Hotel Oberoi, four into Hotel Taj Mahal, two stormed into Nariman House while the rest entered the CST railway station from its mail trains' gate Weren't there 10 incidents, with 3 of the terrorists gone in the car bombing at the airport? And then the attacks at the police station and the hospital. Then you have to figure there was a support network in Mumbai Dunno seems like more than 10 |
| Posted by: Punky Chomolet7900 2008-11-30 12:50 |
| #7 And unlike the USAF interrogator who is axe grinding in another article here, claiming torture is used by the US, there is no time to play mind games and "befriend" him. If it will stop another attack, I say flay him. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2008-11-30 12:26 |
| #6 THey are not so bound by leftist vision of "proper" interrogation techniques as we are -- and expediency is important due to the possibility of quick followups. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2008-11-30 12:25 |
| #5 It is called the "Indian Police Beating" (as seen in Bollywood movies). |
| Posted by: john frum 2008-11-30 11:18 |
| #4 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,459284,00.html True, but he's surprisingly spilling beans and linked them to Pakistan and given some of the operation details. They must have applied some 3rd world torture techniques early on. |
| Posted by: Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-11-30 10:54 |
| #3 the smiling terrorist is probably not the leader and doesn't know everything There may have been only 10 that this guy knows about but I'll bet they had some local accomplices and there may have been another team. |
| Posted by: mhw 2008-11-30 09:53 |
| #2 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=39a_1227998909 It seems they arrested the smiling terrorist and he didn't want to die, he's going to wish he did. |
| Posted by: Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-11-30 08:53 |
| #1 they formed four groups and hired taxis to reach to their destinations. You have to have lived in Asia to see the logic of heavily armed terrorists hailing cabs to get to their destination. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2008-11-30 07:03 |